Vioxx payouts may not be enough
Vioxx users who sued Merck will begin to receive payouts from the lawsuit this week. But Dan Grech reports several claimants are saying the money they receive won't be enough to cover the damage done.
A pharmacist holds up a bottle of the arthritis drug Vioxx. (Spencer Platt/Getty Images)
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Scott Jagow: For awhile, it looked like we would see a hundred years of Vioxx trials. But last year, drug company Merck settled the lawsuits over it's the painkiller for $4.8 billion. This week, that money starts going to the victims. Dan Grech reports.
Dan Grech: More than 97 percent of people who sued Merck agreed to the settlement. That's nearly 50,000 people. Individual payouts will range from $5,000 to several million dollars. Still, many claimants say it's not enough.
Al Pennington is a retired TV broadcaster who had a heart attack after taking Vioxx:
Al Pennington: When they see that $4.85 billion figure, the public thinks, wow, those people are going to be rich. But then a lawyer takes 35-40 percent, the plaintiff is left with very little.
Pennington says his check will barely cover the prescription drugs he now takes for his weakened heart.
Claimants will start receiving their checks in a few weeks. That doesn't mean Merck's troubles are over. The company still faces hundreds of potential lawsuits.
I'm Dan Grech for Marketplace.
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From Lake Placid, FL, 08/24/2009
Merck is getting away with murder and Congress is protecting them.proof is in the Product Liability fairness Act 1995, Congress deleted defective prescription drugs and defective medical devises from this ACT. Intennionally and with Malice because they wanted to shield the pharmasecuitals with immunity from prosectution. No Law. They preempted the law and have left the public at risk. Also they discriminated against the commercial and contract Laws by deleting the drugs and devises out of the Product Liability Fairness ACT. Congress discriminated against the public and the commercial imports and exports and left the public at risk. further violation of the Equal Protection Law. Now they want the public to trust them with the Obama Healthcare bill that has over 1000 pages that most of them have not read or looked at. Shame on them.Merck and the Congress think the people are stupid and slaves and they allow the fast track Experiments on and torture, injure and kill with out a fight. Take it or leave it settlement so Merck can continue doing their killing by aiding the government in population control.
From tylertown, MS, 05/25/2009
I took vioxx for several months. I did not have stroke nor heartattack, but had some problems with bradycarida and irregular HR shortly after. I filed a claim, will i get any monies for the damage believe done by vioxx? PLEASE ANSWER
From Lake Placid, FL, 05/23/2009
As of May 20, 2009 President Obama issued an Executive order in the form of a Memo to Congress to Reform the FDA and FDCA Act to remove the Preemption law that protects Prescription drug companies for defective prescription drugs and medical devises. This will remove the immunity shield from the drug companies and allow them to be prosecuted for their killing and injury and make them be accountable in a courts of law. Fact of Law is that since 1962 drug companies have been immune from any prosecution and have left the public at risk. Congress preempted the law. It appears that drug companies have one constitution and the American Consumer has another. There is no equal protection under color of law for the public. Since 1962 No president has suggested or made any changes to protect the American Consumers till now. Thousands of Americans have been killed and injured because of what Congress did. Now they can make it right. It has taken 3 years to get this done and a lot of praying. Because of a toxic drug called Vioxx that killed 88,000 and injured 169,000 with heart attacks and strokes I became a Vioxx Survivor and have been fighting this in the Courts just like everyone else. The exception is I wrote the Senators and Congressmen and pointed out to them that by leaving the preemption of the law and the shield on drug companies. They were in violation of their Oath of Office, malfeasance in Office as well as Derelict of Duty and the violation of Title,Trust and Bond. This is all criminal acts. Mo one has ever challenged them with a claim of unconstitutionality. The drug companies have gotten so powerful and so much money they control the news media and the legal system. Let Congress know you want equal protection under the color of law.It is everyones Rights.
From Lake Placid, FL, 05/08/2009
Show me the Law. There is NONE for Product Liability for prescription drugs and medical devises.Google the FDCA Act 1962 and read what Congress and certain Senators on the Health and Human services did by omitting and preempting the law. Over the 47 years this has caused thousands of Consumer Americans to be injured and killed because the prescription drug companies are not held accountable for the damages or killing. Because of this has caused Medicare and Medicaid cost to go up and left the public at risk. There is NO Federal Law and NO State Law. NONE. Prescription drug companies and medical devise manufacturing companies are above the law. Google the FDCA Act. 1962.
From Lake Placid, FL, 03/06/2009
good news for the victums of Merck'S Vioxx. The drug companies no longer have a shield of protection as preemption was ruled against by the United States Supreme Court Justices 6 to 3. Drug Companies will now be held responsible for their damage and killing.
From wilmington, DE, 12/05/2008
I worked at a super market for 38 years a rough job I got Artitis took vioxx prescriptions then the Doctor gave me samples for free.I had a Heart Attack in the store .Open Heart surgery Never had Heart problems in my life 5 days later phemonia.First in my Family.I did smoke,but I know people who still smoke at 70.I was 60 at the time I have not heard yet about a settlement or if I passed any Gates? What is the delay?
11/26/2008
I am very familiar with the Vioxx litigation and the Settlement Program and want to give you information about them.
First, I was at Judge Fallon’s monthly status conference last Friday. Second, Here are the highlights on the Settlement:
Percentage of Eligible Claimants Enrolled 99.79%
Claims Form + PME Records Received 41,273
In Queue for Gates Review ~14,650
In Gates Review Process ~17,970
In Points Review Process ~4,360
Claims Paid August – October: 1,315
Claims to be Paid 11/25/08: 1,740
TOTAL Paid or to be Paid by Nov.: 3,055
Current Per Point Value (MI): $1,915
Total Interim Payment $ Paid $247,317,013
I’m sorry that not all of you have attorneys that are keeping you informed. But, most of them are hard-workng, honest people trying to do the best they can.
Lastly, BrownGreer said that it was “committed to completing all MI payments (Interim and Final) by summer of 2009."
If you have specific questions, I’ll answer to the extent that I have the time to take away from other duties.
Take care.
From Albany, GA, 11/24/2008
I took Vioxx and had a number of strokes.
I also suffered a heart attack and had open heart surgery while I was in prison. I was told that they throw out my case. Because they could not reach me. I file the law suite before I went to prison and had the strokes before I went to prison. Now while I was in prison they sent papers to me residents where I wife did not tell me they (Lawyers) sent papers for me to sign. I got intouch with the law frim and they told me everything was going fine. I started the paper work before I went to prison. Now the they tell me that the Judge throw out my case. I am homeless and begging for help. I am now living with a family memeber and trying to get them to reopen my case. What can I do?
From Reno, NV, 11/11/2008
Dennis - I think we have found your problem: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-schizophrenia/DS00862/DSECTION=symptoms
From KIngston, NY, 11/08/2008
HEY DAN IN a bit of some more (ongoing) analysis and research, we have learned the ULTIMATE "game plan" - i.e. the MSA becomes a de facto law signed into law by the legislature - which would "close the loop" (an illegal one) by pharma, with Merck leading the way... take a look at just one of the descriptions of "BILL OF ATTAINDER" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_attainder and realize that the stage is being set by Merck and Pharma to completely absolve themselves of ANY RISK, thus their (alleged...) recklessness, deceit, fraud, deception, etc. SIMPLY BECOMES FIXED BUSINESS COSTS that are managed in the PRODUCT LIFE CYCLE of their poorly tested "products" - which are designed to really just get over the statute of limitations as Merck and Pharma practice their "patterns and practice" beyond even what many would have thought. NO, Dan � this is NOT a vPEG view, but certainly vPEG should be at least notified of what is happening as there are surely MANY great people there that have also been figuring out what has happened. Talk about scorn for the public and the law. Talk about duping the legislature and the public. Dan, we know what is being set up, and we now are realizing what we must do BESIDES RICO. Dan... YES, actually even RICO is not the end of what must be done here... Anyway, I am sorry for going on with some detail here.... but even though you are a shill, and are in this FOR MONEY ONLY, even you may not know the DAMAGE that you are assisting with. Even being a legal person that you are, as it likeley surpasses what the average attorney even has realized... So, please - Dan, why not take this back to 'your authorities and let them know that we have now discovered this also..."... please, Dan... please do that at least for me...
From Catskill, NY, 11/08/2008
I have answered that question MANY times in a few places as new people come on so they understand. Surely you know that as you ARE obsessed with me, which mean a LOT by the way - you ol' SHILL you who is now pretending to be sick - give me a break, we know who you are...
That said, it is ALL explained, go ahead and dig deeper and find it if you wish, you are so omnipresent and all ove the place that you know how...
Also, please give my regards to your very misguided and corrupt friends who are going to have a very, very, tough 2009...
Guess I'll be talking to you again, you old phony shill you...
Thanks for helping me understand what I was already beginning to gain evidence on you and your friends about...
Nice try though, you ol' shill...
From Reno, NV, 11/08/2008
Bones:
You still avoid answering the question:
WHEN DID YOU HAVE YOUR STROKE OR HEART ATTACK?
You never had either one. You are NOT a part of the settlement. So why are you so obsessed with the vioxx plaintiffs?
It's because these people are sharing a huge award, and you want a piece of it. I am NOT a threat to you or anyone. I am old and sick. My only concern is that I refuse to let you con artists prey on innocent victims. It has been said: "For evil to prosper, it is only necessary for good men to do nothing". I refuse to see your scam and to simply "do nothing".
So answer the question.
From Catskill, NY, 11/07/2008
OH forgot Dan... read YOUR own writing.. apparently you are copying/pasting and NOT READING. I said I will be USING the funds FROM (i.e NOT FOR) - do you know how to read?) MY CASE, in fact I will use virtually ALL OF MY FUNDS if I need to in order to defeat this INJUSTICE.. and the perverted "form" of justice that Merck and Pharma is trying to cram down everyone's throats, and now we are finding - next step - Congress as it appears that the MSA was written so it, or its shadow, can be slid under the nose of Congress itself..... so we will no have to work on that also... of course YOU now that is necessary because PRE-EMPTION is not very likely to happen, in spite of the FEAR MONGEREING used by the PSC and the MDL court - in fact AFTER the Pre-emption fails and the reasons for it are explained it, the MDL et al are going to have some explaining as to why they did what they did (coerce with that also as a "reason") ...till that time, we ARE making progess... it is a bit slow and difficult, but we are getting there... sure wish you would quit and help instead of hinder... Dan I do NOT even need any more funding for my own case. I am fine there, no issue you ol' shill and nice try... PLUS, as the MDL well knows, I do know how to write in their terminology also, and they KNOW that I have put it all together....... no problem there.. ALL THE TIME also looking to help people as that is what is RIGHT in life Dan, not the shamless acts that you are constantly up to - I am in this for the long run and to help MANY of the existing affected, but to prevent this horrible tragedy in the future..., unlike you who wish to scream that the vIOXX victims and surivivors are in this for what YOU say is "blood money". Wow - you sure are a mean guy - come on, please take off the mask and gain your humanity back. PLease help people that have been damaged by vIOXX. The individuals know me well, they do not know you - though we know you are an ol' shill - now don't we? MAN - you are obsessed with me.. what gives?
From Catskill, NY, 11/07/2008
Dan and other ol' shill
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WHY in the world are you so obsessed with me? Several people have expressed perplexion on why the heck would you just so passionately try to get in my way of clearly only helping. My history speaks for itself, and except for a few of the ol' shills I get 95% ONLY very good response.
Dan, do you really think I, a pro se with no legal experince, am posing such a threat to the corrupt and collusive efforts that have corraled and pigeonholed the MANY VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS? I am one person - I do not heave the legal education you have. Certainly, though, I can see you are no match for my business capabilities, not to boast, but frankly that is what has allowed me to "figure out" this whole fraudulently "settlement" (DEAL). YOU MERCK lawyers are doing a farily decent job, but you have not paid off enough people apparently, and did not count on a few that would stand up to you, and there are many more than just I.
Now, the BUSINESS people in MURK. What a sad bunch of losers. They started and are continuing to drive MURK into the ground with their ruthless methods of (alleged...) MURDER FOR PROFIT, and we are well aware of how the Merck employees, almost all of them fine people (not like you apparently), are also jammed by their destructive, mean spirited managemet, with the you know who's at the top shouting and demanding (allegedly....)to bottle the truth or be fired. Dan, did you know that many Merck people just LOVE to quit Merck. Yes, at least they have scruples. MAN, you should know the really incriminating information they share with me. One thing about the frequent blogging and exposure, I do get many people coming to me with the TRUTH. And, DAN, it just keeps getting filed in multiple places.... so you ol' shill - you can go tell MURK and the rest of the collued "gang" they can't get it!!! TOO late.... sorry!
BUT go again Dan... go ahead, I am wondering when I am going to see you take the next level up to REAL threats... for certainly I am aware of what is going on there also...
NO, Dan - you can run, but you cannot hide...
Dan, these chats exposing your fraudulent and mean spirit are getting easier, so hey, what the heck, I can keep them up if you wish too.. It does prevent other stuff, but I'll take the time every day, two or three to answer you, as apparently YOU are having fun with this.. aren't you, you ol' shill?
From Reno, NV, 11/07/2008
D. Harrison: Instead of your cut-and-paste rambling nonsense, how about answering the question: When was your heart attack or stroke? NEVER! You are not a part of this settlement in any way, shape or form. Those are the ONLY vioxx injuries that are qualified for this case. Someone's claims that vioxx caused warts, baldness, or erectile dysfunction do not apply to this settlement. You wrote recently:
"dedicate my own personal lifetime, all of it - to this issue. Funding that I may, hopefully, receive from my case – which may expand in many ways incidentally WOULD find itself in a major way to fight the terrible injustice I see"
So it apprears that you ARE setting the stage to get the victims to donate to your "cause" (since YOU know that there will be no money from your make-believe case to provide your "funding" for your "cause"). You are a scam artist, and you have spent a lot of time and energy setting up this con game. People WILL NOT fall for your cult of nonsense.
Perhaps instead of trying to con these sick and injured victims and their families, you would have better luck trying to cheat crippled children.
You are a sad little person, deeply in need of some counseling.
From Catskill, NY, 11/06/2008
Go ahead and be a smartie the two shills out there... but this is just in...
This is NOT vPEG sanctioned, but frankly just sickened me today…
Today, a theory was advanced that should it have merit, frankly makes my stomach sick and I am very serous when I tell you that I have spent the last 4 hours shocked and saddened, it really has taken the wind out of me. It is one that the MSA (the agreement) was actually written so that it could then be transferred into LAW by Congress… and the pharma, and other industry will use it (as planned) to shield themselves from MASS TORTS.
That does not mean that locally one cannot sue for being run over by a car, but it WOULD mean that damage perpetuated by a drug company will have one heck of a hard time gaining any shred of adequate compensation for the rest of our lives, and our children’s also. It will allow the adequate testing needed to come out of the laboratory and into the public and will discourage proper pharma post-marketing tracking/analysis. It will make litigation merely a fixed, product life cycle cost. By providing fixed costs and capping risk, it will then permit other reckless and too risky behavior by the pharma industry. The ramifications get worse….
Really, I have spent the last 4 hours sickened by what I now see as a real possibility, unless MAJOR NOISE IS MADE, about to happen. It will complete the “loop” and it all fits very well. I am not a radical – in fact I have quite conservative values in re to family and right/wrong – but in re to CIVIL RIGHTS of MANY kinds, I would consider myself in the liberal camp, as I DO see movement towards as I say – “peeling away our CIVIL RIGHTS like onions”.
This DOES NOT mean it is over, it may mean that we need to REALLY recognize that WE have just begun. If one is a vIOXX Plaintiff and wishes to apply to the vIOXX Education Plaintiff Group (vPEG) the web site is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MerckSettlement/
From Catskill, NY, 11/06/2008
Today, a theory was advanced that should it have merit, frankly makes my stomach sick and I am very serous when I tell you that I have spent the last 4 hours shocked and saddened, it really has taken the wind out of me. It is one that the MSA (the agreement) was actually written so that it could then be transferred into LAW by Congress� and the pharma, and other industry will use it (as planned) to shield themselves from MASS TORTS. That does not mean that locally one cannot sue for being run over by a car, but it WOULD mean that damage perpetuated by a drug company will have one heck of a hard time gaining any shred of adequate compensation for the rest of our lives, and our children�s also. It will allow the adequate testing needed to come out of the laboratory and into the public and will discourage proper pharma post-marketing tracking/analysis. It will make litigation merely a fixed, product life cycle cost. By providing fixed costs and capping risk, it will then permit other reckless and too risky behavior by the pharma industry. The ramifications get worse�. Really, I have spent the last 4 hours sickened by what I now see as a real possibility, unless MAJOR NOISE IS MADE, about to happen. It will complete the �loop� and it all fits very well. I am not a radical � in fact I have quite conservative values in re to family and right/wrong � but in re to CIVIL RIGHTS of MANY kinds, I would consider myself in the liberal camp, as I DO see movement towards as I say � �peeling away our CIVIL RIGHTS like onions�. This DOES NOT mean it is over, it may mean that we need to REALLY recognize that WE have just begun.
From Catskill, NY, 11/06/2008
By Dennis Harrison
From Catskill, NY, 11/06/2008
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Dan
Didn't like the way that last one formatted, so let me try again... hang in there you ol' shill..
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1 - YOU are wrong; way wrong; rejected twice the papwerwork they keep trying to send me to sign my rights away. Man they are trying... guess I might be one of the last standing.... and along the way I WILL HELP ANYONE I CAN....
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2 - YOU are clueless (or perhaps KNOW EACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING and support the stripping of CIVIL RIGHTS and adequate protection FROM Pharma).
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3 - YOU are a MEAN person who places no value on human life. 4 - YOUR statements prove to anyone half way knowledgable that you DO NOT wish even a modicum of fair treatment for the vIOXX victims and survivors. You obviously support the 10 cents on the dollar bludgeoning that Merck has set forth, and is supported by the courts and the PSC in their smoke filled back room..
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4 - YOU are a "shill" Again, come on you ol' shill... take off your mask, give up the $500 to $750 per hour for being a shill, and regain the humanity that you probably (I think) once had. No amount of money is worth what you are trying to accomplish.
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OH, the $ you just have to keep referring to... - have never received EVEN ONE PENNY, and in spite of spending AT LEAST several thougand of my own real dollars I WOULD NOT FOR A SECOND ACCEPT A PENNY to the day I die for helping out.. there is such a thing as doing the right thing, and you have no clue there apparently, and that DOES NOT COST any dollars where I am concerned, and never will. In fact, I would even give up food and if I had to, go outside and eat the grass and the bark off trees just to survive and look to beat back the BEAST (MURK). Dan you ol' shill you, you have no idea of my fortitude to be in this for the long run... go ahead and tell your buddies in the pharma industry, the courts, the PSC, and the "biggie" law firms that they have got to RESTORE CIVIL RIGHTS and STOP THEIR (allegedly... yawn)... collusive and fraudulent methods... Do that for me, will you? ... you ol' shill... Thanks....
From Catskill, NY, 11/06/2008
Dan 1 - YOU are wrong; way wrong; rejected twice the papwerwork they keep trying to send me to sign my rights away. Man they are trying... guess I might be one of the last standing.... and along the way I WILL HELP ANYONE I CAN.... 2 - YOU are clueless (or perhaps KNOW EACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING and support the stripping of CIVIL RIGHTS and adequate protection FROM Pharma). 3 - YOU are a MEAN person who places no value on human life. 4 - YOUR statements prove to anyone half way knowledgable that you DO NOT wish even a modicum of fair treatment for the vIOXX victims and survivors. You obviously support the 10 cents on the dollar bludgeoning that Merck has set forth, and is supported by the courts and the PSC in their smoke filled back room.. 4 - YOU are a "shill" Again, come on you ol' shill... take off your mask, give up the $500 to $750 per hour for being a shill, and regain the humanity that you probably (I think) once had. No amount of money is worth what you are trying to accomplish. OH, the $ you just have to keep referring to... - have never recieved EVEN ONE PENNY, and in spite of spending AT LEAST several thougand of my own real dollars I WOULD FOR A SECOND ACCEPT A PENNY to the day I die for helping out.. there is such a thing as doing the right thing, and you have no clue there apparently, and that DOES NOT COST any dollars where I am concerned, and never will. In fact, I would even give up food and if I had to, go outside and eat the grass and the bark off trees just to survive and look to beat back the BEAST (MURK). Dan you ol' shill you, you have no idea of my fortitude to be in this for the long run... go ahead and tell your buddies in the pharma industry, the courts, the PSC, and the "biggie" law firms that they have got to RESTORE CIVIL RIGHTS and STOP THEIR (allegedly... yawn)... collusive and fraudulent methods... Do that for me, will you? ... you ol' shill... Thanks....
From Reno, NV, 11/05/2008
Still ducking the questions, Dennis? When was your heart attack? When was your stroke? Since you had neither, you are NOT a part of this settlement.
Your only involvement in this whole thing, is that you are trying to set yourself up as some sort of "expert" or "leader" of this group of victim's. Your motive is your mental need to be the center of attention, the leader of the cult, the guy with the followers. This is a great group for you to zero in on. They are sick and injured, and all (except for you) will be getting part of a nearly five billion dollar award pool. You are the wolf circling the herd of sheep. Do you think some will be sending you money to fight your "cause", or maybe for your make believe RICO case? Hopefully they will read what I and others are trying to tell them: Don't fall for the "bones" cult's sale pitch.
That's why you hate to see us tell the truth about your poison pods: Vpeg, Avpeg, Rvpeg, and the others that you make up.
From KIngston, NY, 11/05/2008
DAN For free? GIVE me a break... A shill if I ever saw one.... You are pathetic and frankly are now at the point of making many people laugh at you. Why not go home and kick the cat or some other mean spirited thing like call vIOXX victims/survivors for "blood money". Dan, you are nothing but a perpetual fraud and you are so absurd and dumb it can only make me laugh. Guess I might get to meet you sometime when I get finally to meet with some Merck Laywers - frankly, I can hardly wait - see you there you ol' shill you....
11/04/2008
Dan, Well I am not a bones aka, but I am just me. I am not defending anyone, I have my own beliefs. Why didn't you tell me if you are real or not?
From Reno, NV, 11/04/2008
Paulette, you are quick to defend a fraud (no heart attack, no stroke, just a sick desire to be "important", and maybe take some of your money).
Could it be that "Paulette" is another of the fake names our friend Harrison uses? I don't think so, I think you are just trapped in a cult, like the followers of Jim Jones. Just think a moment before you drink Bones's Kool-aid.
11/04/2008
Dan, I tried to look and see if you are for real and guess what, I found no you in Nevada.
From Reno, NV, 11/03/2008
Bad propaganda again, Harrison. No one needs to pay me to speak out against scam artists like you. I do it for free. The truth panics you, and you are compelled to respond, because you do not like to have your fantasies of cult worship exposed. You prey on sick and injured people. You feed your own ego, and hope to scam these folks out of the award money they will eventually be getting. Why else would you be involved? I see you are trying to avoid answering the basic questions: When was your heart attack? When was your stroke? You won't answer because you never had either one. You are, therefore, not a part of the settlement. Dennis Harrison, aka "Badboneshealing" aka "Bones" aka "tinhipstwotimes" aka "sickwhenispit" and many other false IDs. You're a con artist, and a very bad one. I hope that the victims who visit your poisonous groups like Vpeg, Avpeg, Rvpeg, and Plaintiff Point will realize who you really are before your can damage them any further, or con them out of their money. You really are like Manson, Jim Jones and other cult leaders, and you need mental health counseling.
From Catskill, NY, 11/01/2008
Joan - FYI - we do have evidence that Merck shills are really coming out. Don't blame them - MERCK pays them over $500 per hour, and MURK is very nervous - they should be - many crimes against humanity are indeed a pattern, and RICO just loves patterns, doesn't it? They are idiots for not understanding (well they do, they wish to just misconvey) the trivial reasons tings can be rejected, which merely mean do it again till it is in their proper format - also I explained the typical disclaimer to these clowns, but they don't wish to acknowledge it, as I have no doubt they are indeed MERCK shills, they have more than proven that.
Merck and shills do not like it when they cannot bully individuals around, and they are finally seeing it - let alone the 1,000+ (beyond vPEG by the way) and the major documentation we have on hundreds and hundreds of computers that just cannot now be erased. It is about to become something ((THE CAUSE) that cannot be turned back, that is obvious - they can threaten (and they do) anyone they want, too many people are now involved and willing to go forward. Poor dumb Merck would do better, EVEN BUSINESS WISE, to just come clean and begin to "clean" up their mess. They cannot "win" and should just work not to rectify the heavy hand of justice whiuch is about to come down on them starting now and throughout 2009. The early the just admit it, the better their chance for survival, else they will bust into pieces - even one of their former CEOs said "Merck is worth saving" - now what does that say? Come on shills, why not forget your $500 - $750 an hour and become human that you must have once been.
From Lake Placid, FL, 10/31/2008
Wiseman, You know I think it is very intersting that you found out something that no one else knows. I think it is wonderful you can tell eveyone about the RICO, I guess the Judges and Merck must be shook up if they have to threaten me with santions. You know it does not scare me. I have a case that has merit and they know it. You don't know the whole story. Stay tuned.
From Eastpointe, MI, 10/30/2008
Wow, I am impressed Dan, it only took you 3 days to come up with a answer to what I said. I don't really care what you think, everyone is allowed an opinion. So you go ahead and believe what ever you want, I personally could give a shxx. I know who I am and I know the truth about vpeg. Thanks anyway. Have a nice day Dan.
From Catskill, 10/30/2008
Dan - you are an arrogant pompous axx idiot who does not know what you are taking about. You are crass, mean and a shameful person. I am not posting detail, that is over unfortunately so much good info will not be shared, but certainly reserve the right to tell you what a jerk you are.
From Reno, NV, 10/30/2008
Paulete, the VPEG group is made up of followers. They blindly follow leader (Fruher) Bones. With the same mindless need to be told what to do and how to think. He is now telling them to give their own settlement (which he is NOT a part of), and get involved in a make believe RICO case. He will we tapping their bank accounts shortly for money to support "the cause". He (and that whole cult of his) is nothing but an obvious scam. Like most scam artists, he targets the most vulnerable, and they respond out of anxiety about their future. Trust the lawyer that you are paying! Not some anonymous web crawler, with an egomanic's need for followers. The guy is a fraud. Read his rambling drivel which is all over the net. He is mentally ill (and not very intelligent).
From OH, 10/27/2008
Dear so called Wiseman,
If you really wanted to be true to your name why don't you just shut the hell up,these plaintiffs have suffered enough without the ramblings of listening to you. In your case I'd like to see Merck bring back vioxx and make you take it for a couple of years and see what happens to you!!
From Eastpointe, MI, 10/27/2008
Mr. Dan, The wonderful people at vpeg are not groupies and would prefer that you put comments about us to where the sun don't shine. Grow up!
From Reno, NV, 10/27/2008
"Cult"? Yep. Perfect example. Dennis and his VPEG groupies. More like a little Hitler wannabe than Charlie Mansen.
From Catskill, NY, 10/26/2008
TYPO
"do blame" on last post from Harrison
should read "DO NOT BLAME" - it should be obvious via the content, but in case not, it is now "fixed" on "record" before I stop wastiong time here.
I am done with this trashy site with 2 quite mean spirited people that have offered nothing positive. It started with vPEG being able to explain their histories, and that is all it was. It denigrated into the two mean people taking it over - I just have to believe they are working for Merck in one way or the other.
Have a nice life.
From Eastpointe, MI, 10/25/2008
I dare to say that you children need a timeout. It is not helping anything in the least. If you don't like what someone has said, you have the option of not reading. But this sparring between the three of you is getting annoying. My mother always told me if you have nothing to nice to say don't say anything. I am not being rude, nor trying to but to me the settlement is the business of the folks that signed on not some outsiders. I am not going to play back and forth so that is all I have to say. Done take a break!!!!!!!!!!!
From SLC, UT, 10/25/2008
Mr Harrison - Please reread your own comments. You are the one who belittles the victims, and wants them to fight against a settlement they have already won. Your lie is self-evident: You were NOT "invited" into the settlement. When was your heart attack? When was your stroke? Those are the injuries for which the settlement is designed. Since you had neither, you would not be qualified to participate, by "invitation", or in any other matter. Since your fantasy has been exposed, it is no wonder that you are "moving on", to try to establish your cult of Bones followers somewhere else. Perhaps you can find some mafia family to try your imaginary RICO stuff on. As I have said before: Get help! You are not mentally stable, and are likely to be harmful to the innocent people that you draw into your web.
From Catskill, NY, 10/25/2008
hello again Solumn and Dan - was thinking I have spent way too much time in trying to get you to realized that the average litigant is getting shafted big time. The 100K figure on average is patethic - I don't know you can argue that, but apparently you keep wishing to and find any way you can to mislead and miscontrue. You both are truly mean people to the thousands of vIOXX victims and survivors. I have done nothing but try to help you have done nothing but to try to make the litigants feel guilty. I surely don't know what makes you tick.
That said, I'm taking a break from this "stuff" for now, have too many other things to do, and have to limit them to productive things. YOU two are not a productive use of time as apparently you both are so mean spirited towards the vioxx victims and survivors. I'm not saying goodybe, but taking off a vit from your ridiculous statments which are likely a waste of everyone's time now.
From Catskill, NY, 10/25/2008
Frankly - there is so much evidence to support my claim it is incredible. Merck has alwsays decided not to let it be known. My case is easy. I do this ONLY for helping others. I know way too much not to share and help - you just do not get it, period. YOU started the idiotic ramblings and insults, I did not, I would not do justice to self or others if I did not do likewise back to you, as you threaten efforts to seek fair compensation for all and "all" are basically receiving 10% tops of what they should. I was, by the way invited into settlemet,and I rejected it. Merck et al tried to get me to sign my rights away like they did via coercision to 97+%. I don't want a dime unless it comes with FAIR justice, and I DO WANT MY DAY in court. Easiest thing for me to do would not try to help others. I get nothing -0- $ out of it, and it consumes my time. It is self serving mean people like you that I try to set straight - ALWAYS gently and slowly, and a few - that is ONLY a few, like you just don't wish to hear it and wish the many good people with irrepable harm to live off peanuts. You are nuts in claiming that they are greed, blood money etc. They merely wish a bit of their lives back together again. I do blame anyont opt-ing, they DO need food and shelter, and this hoax of a "settlement" does not give it to them.
From SLC, UT, 10/24/2008
Mr Harrison: In my previous post, I was simply defending myself from an attack which falsely accused me of working for Merck, and for being a "dummy" because I was able to find information on line.
Your post however shows your true character. Tell us: When did you have your heart attack? When did you have your stroke? You had neither, and so you are NOT a part of the settlement. Period. You claim vioxx worsened an existing condition. Maybe it did, but there is no medical evidence to support that claim, unlike the volume of evidence for the cardiac problems. That appears to make you very angry. So angry that you try your best to destroy the settlement which will benifit the true victims. You seem to hope that they will rewrite the terms to include you. YOU ARE ONLY IN THIS FOR YOURSELF. You are one of the greediest, evilest characters I have ever run across. You claim that these good people who have accepted the settlement are stupid for accepting $100,000 or more. These people who are living day to day should give up this award so the settlement can be rewritten to include you? Like Charlie Manson or Jim Jones you hope to start your own little "cult". You hope that upsetting these anxious and frustrated victims will encourage them to abandon their own best interests, and follow your little cult. Such selfish greed, and such disregard for the true victims make you no better than Jim Jones insisting that your followers drink your koolaid of dispair. Ms Petty had her RICO case thrown out as a crackpot action, and you want to lead others to believe that you have "found the way", and will "save them". You fit right in with history's other nut jobs like David Koresh. If your gospel of hate, greed, and despair harms even one victim, I hope you are prepared to live with that fact.
From Catskill, NY, 10/24/2008
Hello Solumn
In regards to your MOST CURRENT FEUD – I finally realize that you must go through each and every day kind of being passive/aggressive. Now that you have attempted to trash me (didn’t work by the way) you are now moving onto Ms Petty. Instead of harping and throwing your sharp pen at me, you are just off base and wrong again but this time with a different person. Sorry, you and your cohert Dan just continue to love to hear yourself philosophize, be smug and continue your robotic intellectualizing. You don’t have a clue of real life or are grounded in any way, are you? Also, please, please finally perhaps you and Dan can let us know where you are coming from. Did you have a vIOXX problem? Did your spouse, parents or siblings – just who are you trying to “help” or “impress”?
I noticed that time and time again you just don’t go beyond first base in understanding ANY issue. You throw some words and a cut and paste together and look to make yourself appear wise and all knowing – and you really don’t have a clue, my gosh. You simply enjoy writing and intellectualizing shallow views without any common sense. You do write fairly well, and you do know how to COPY/PASTE very, very well. You then either make things appear as they are not, or you SIMPLY DO NOT THINK something through.
If you had any common sense at all, or perhaps if you were an astute business person rather than what appears to be an “intellectual” who loves to quote and philosophize, you could figure it out.
That “statement” is merely in the spirit of what virtually ALL dismissals place at the end of their statements. Are you not smart enough to realize that, or are you just again cutting and pasting not knowing what you are talking about? You are again showing you cluelessnes to real life, amazing just amazing…
You certainly are a master of creating deception and confusion by those ol’ copy/pastes, your shallow logic and mean spirit. J. Petty is really attempting to help others who have been several times harmed by the same corporation now (let alone the court and attorney issue(s)). The FACT is that vIOXX damaged individuals are not even getting 10% fair compensation to put their lives somewhat back in shape, however permanently impaired and life shortened they are.
Again, J. Petty is attempting to help many individuals, now and in the future. Unless a RICO intercedes to unmask the alleged criminality, the MURK cycle will repeat over and over… You on the other hand are looking to make excuses for the abuse suffered by many at the hands of Merck and your views would simply encourage the MURK cycle. You are squarely in the camp of profits at ALL costs over even reasonable safety. You have no clue there either.
How would you like to go about every day knowing that you had to have stents implanted or having to live with the memory of various surgeries or the loss of a loved one? Are you seriously suggesting that an average net of about $100,000 is worth an MI, Stroke, Pulmonary Embolism or permanent kidney disease, and more! My gosh, Solumn, where is your humanity? How could you or Dan look at yourself in the mirror with such callous and arrogant disregard for human life? Frankly, it is appalling to see another human being with such disregard for life. I suppose that you also do not like animals and are all for clubbing seals and similar to death? You are inhumane, man – likely just born with a silver spoon and not experiencing any hardship in your life. I CERTAINLY would never, ever wish upon you what the average vIOXX victim and/or survivor has endured – and continues to as this SHAM OF A SETTLEMENT progresses to ATTEMPT to complete the fraudulent cycle it began on. Yes, even though it is apparently continuing at an incompetent pace not unlike the incompetency and disregard for human life we have seen of Merck and the alleged collusion and corruption driving this whole process just like a sausage grinder.
From SLC, UT, 10/23/2008
Ms Petty - It does not take a "dummy" to google the words "Joan+Petty+Circuit+Court". If you do that, you will see the following entry under the site Medworm, dated September 26, 2008:
5th circuit affirms dismissal of vioxx suit asserting rico claims discuss this article
NEW ORLEANS - The Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals has affirmed dismissal of a Vioxx suit asserting the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act and warned the pro se litigant that she faces sanctions if the court determines further actions "constitute frivolous, harassing, or contumacious conduct." (Joan M. Petty v. Merck and Company Inc., No. 07-31094, 5th Cir.; 2008 U.S. App. LEXIS 16129). Full story on lexis.com (Source: LexisNexis® Mealey's™ Arthritis Drugs Legal News)
Source: LexisNexis® Mealey's™ Arthritis Drugs Legal News - September 26, 2008 Category: Medical Law Source Type: info
So your point is....?
From Lake Placid, FL, 10/23/2008
Soloman Wiseman, reply, 10-16-08
Tell me you must be an attorney because you would not have any of the information related to the Court of Appeals unless you are a Merck Attorney or a clerk or associated with the Court. You would not know what the entry stated unless you have access to it. because the documents were shredde. You exposed your self when you said they kicked my RICO out. You really did not know that I gave notice to file in the United States Supreme Court. Your insults are not a Vioxx Victim but a Merck inplant. Anyone who has information from the Court of Appeals would have had to have access to my court case and you could have only got any information unless you are employeed at the Court or Merck's Attorneys. You think you are so smart.
You are a real dummie.
From Lake Placid, FL, 10/22/2008
Today Merck is laying off 7,200 employees. They claim they have lost 28% of the generic busiess.Truth is Merck sold their generic business to Myland pharma for 8 billion cash earlier this year. Do you think they are considering moving?
From Lake Placid, FL, 10/22/2008
On Monday in NY, Judge Fallon extended from August till Oct. 30th for anyone who wants to get in the settlement process.
From LA, 10/22/2008
Dan, "Blood money". You want to talk about "Blood Money" Look at the following quote from the FDA back in 2004.
"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) estimates that Vioxx may have contributed to 27,785 heart attacks and sudden cardiac deaths between 1999 and 2003. The estimate is based on the number of prescriptions issued for Vioxx between 1999 and 2003."
27,785 heart attacks strokes and deaths. That's at least 27,785 men and women who have had their lives ended or at least cut short. That's 27,785 people who will not be able to work full time jobs because of their poor health. That's 27,785 people who will be drawing social security or disability benefits early in their lives. That's 27,785 people who will lose their homes because they can't keep up with the mortgages. That's 27,785 people who will be paying for drugs for the rest of their lives. That's 27,785 people who will not be the productive members of society that they were before Merck gave us all that Great wounder drug Vioxx. But that hasn't stopped them from developing the next great wounder drug. Their latest development Gardasil The Great vaccine that might prevent some kind of cancer in young girls. Maybe. Perhaps you should see what you can learn about what is happening to the young girls that are getting that new wounder drug. These truly are Wounder drugs. Take them and then you wounder why your still alive. Why not just give the drug manufactures the right to experiment with their drugs on the general population. Oh, wait. That's what they are doing. Open your eyes Dan. It's not about money. Al Pennington
10/22/2008
Dan -
You are NOT a finance major or even have much ability in that, or at least you are not showing it. Tell me truthfully, would you agree to suffer a heart attack, stroked or Pulmonary Embolism (and I won't even add Kidney disease for now) for about $100K? If you are likely. Tell you what, find someone, write up a contract for $100 million and challenge me to accept it. Go ahead, I accept and a medically induced heart attack is induced - and then I take my chance for death, a shorter life span, or maybe I'll be lucky and not die. Go ahead, find someone - and I will be more to sign on the dotted line - NO THANK YOU!!!
Please, just do some math and divide that by the numbers. Please realize that Merck will continue its wanton and (allegedly) murderous ways (and they cetainly DO SEEM to have more than one trick up their sleeves to get every ounce of profit, regardless of one's long term well being, up their sleeve.
Well, thanks for the counterview is I guess I could offer, as that is useful also.
Sincerely
Dennis Harrison
From Reno, NV, 10/21/2008
Look at the title of this article: $5 billion is not enough? That money is taken directly from the funding for the developement of new medication. Millions could be dying because that needed research is delayed, but now this is "not enough"! Harrison and the VPEG people aren't satisfied that a million people will die because research is dalayed a couple of years to pay their "settlement", instead they want to double the settlement (or more), and if that means two or three million die instead, they say "that's too bad". Not their concern. They could care less as long as they get more money. Blood money!
From Bangor, ME, 10/19/2008
I agree with Ms Petty, there needs to be better labeling requirements. There also needs to be more simplified labeling. As it is now, you get three or four pages of fine print with every prescription. It's way to confusing for the average person.
I also agree with Mr Wiseman, there are a lot of people around the world who are alive today because of the efforts of modern phamacuitical advances.
From Lake Placid, FL, 10/18/2008
There is a need to amend the FDA & FDCA Act. The product liability clause was omitted by congress in 1962, This over the years has allowed the pharmasuiticals manufacturing companies to get away with murder and injury and torture and experimenting on innocent public. the Off label allows them to put anything and anykind of pill in the bottle and give it to you. Without you knowing what that is in the making up of that pill. No ingredence. You can take it and maybe it will not hurt or kill you but if it does there is no law that will prosecute them for killing you or injury, No State No Federal Laws. This is caused Congress Preempted the Public Law FDA & FDCA Act. 1962. Eli Lilly just settled with South Dakota for 62 million dollars because of the off label Act. to reinburse Medicaid for putting the public at risk. another case Phamaceutical Co. Cephalon paid 425 million dollars for off-label drug marketing. again and again same old same old. No law or remedy for Product Liability for a defective prescription drug.
From Kingston, NY, 10/18/2008
I meant Dan, not Solumn - also Dan, vPEG is kind of a home base, and FAR surpasses any of the other blogs in organization, numbers and respect. The other blogs are getting there a bit, but are so new they have no knowledge of the vast history and deep knowledge so many in vPEG have gained. It goes like this, at one time, vPEG was being attacked by other blogs - big time. That was a major disservice to many of the other blogs who did wish other info. Many insults flew around, and often did end up being some sparring, and often funny between some people, including self. Such does not exist with you (dan) and your cohort (solumn); you both just are consistently mean spitired towards all vIOXX victims and survivors. YOU often nothhing of any substantial value except for smart axx remarks. YOU have no sense of humor like at least other blogs seemed to have some of. YOU to provide zilch information except to whine that Merck ought to (allegedly)be allowed to experiment and kill unecessarily, and (allegedly) are apparently colluded and sanctioned with. Both of you just love to philosophize and neither one of you ever offer anything except smugness, holier than thou attitudes.
From Kingston, NY, 10/17/2008
NOW I GOT IT - YOU HAVB TO BE FROM MERCK OR REPRESENTING MERCK! YOU HAVE TO BE. What you suggest is abolute garbage and fabrigated. I wonder if their is a slander issue here? WOW, you have you know whats. You are meaner, dumber, and more calculating than I would have ever guessed.
Please understand that Solumn is full of bulloney and this is untrue and garbage. Apparently, Solumn IS really nervous as he likely knows of two events this week that could blow the cover off of Merck and make them be more fair to all, and be brought to real, criminal justice. The "settlement" is likely to be improved if we are successful.
YUP - that is it, Solumn is nervous, must have Merck ties, and knows we are about to make some significant moves. Yup, he knows...
From Reno, NV, 10/17/2008
Mr Harrison rambles like a madman. Here are some of his statements:
Here he claims that vioxx "survivors" should be treated like survivors of the Holocaust:
Nov. 22, 2006 | Henry Greenspan is a psychologist and playwright at the
University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, and is the the author of On Listening
to Holocaust Survivors: Recounting and Life History and, with Agi Rubin,
Reflections: Auschwitz, Memory, and a Life Recreated.
------------ > HE WROTE ON HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS; WHY NOT vIOXX SURVIVORS?;
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
BONES
Here he tries to get people from one forum to attack a member of a different group who questioned rambling paranoia:
"apparently is still part of VPEG (he says he quit) but he listens to us,
then he goes to the TOPIX site, and tries to humiliate VPEG, besides me. I
don't know if ARCHIE1 SHOULD be allowed to stay in VPEG or not, not my
decision, but he is really confused, and mean. He says that I have ruined
VPEG and he constantly ridicules VPEG. - it would be really helpful, if I were able to get some help on
TOPIX - TALK about NET RAGE!!! I have tried to put
out useful information out there. It got unmercifully attacked, just
incredible actually. I tried again. Still, it continued. So, I had to revert
to being a smart axx back (sorry...) to try to get the person(s) to stop, it
has not worked"
Here he complains when is is told to stop disrupting a forum with his rants:
It is really quite ironic to be working my guts out to help so many, and the MDL and Merck darn know of my intentions and is not happy about it. I have some major incriminating evidence they will have to account for, there is no doubt about it. Now I can't even share that info or ask for support, as TOPIX is a blog site that cannot be trusted. They can mock VPEG, but it is PURE CLASS compared to this trashy site, and so are it's new groups as it segments itself to now really come after the MDL and Merck unles they fix this crappy settlement. Always remember, the truth trumps, and one knows in their heart they are right, they do need to ignore such snobbery as I see on this site. Back to ironic, I will remember this part of my life as trying so hard to help so many and getting such disgusting trashy meaness thrown my way. It will not stop me, as for every 1 bad apple, there are 20 good ones. However, I did think the individuals were more humane on TOPIX rather than just plain arrogant and mean. I was warning on TOPIX 2 years ago, well before anyone had a clue as to what was happening. Too many smart axxes on this site. Meanwhile, we move forward to work hard at getting subrogation and legal fees paid by Merck and more. What do we get for support - zip, zero. But coming this far, I do feel obligated for the 20 good apples against the one lousy one on average. Net rage and group swarming is not new. You should continue; I saw you attempt to answer some questions and provide information, above and beyond how you have consistently attempted to warn. These individuals were not even decent enough to just be quiet and let you be. Like a bunch of hawks in the sky, they just cannot wait to swoop down on you for any reason. Don't let it get to you, just keep providing your thoughts. The folks that are just dying for their crumbs and rubbing their hands together in anticipation of merely 10% of what they deserve, are desperate and it is true that MI/Strokes do present themselve as depression in the form of hostility.
They will just continue to be snotty and mean, you cannot change that apparently. I hope it is from their conditions, and not being just poor excuses for humans. Fruits by the fruitcakes is how I look at it.
Here a lawyer tries to explain why he doesn't even qualify for the Vioxx settlement:
Mr. Harrison, thanks for providing your case number. I looked up your docket: you’re not even eligible for the Vioxx settlement because you did not suffer a stroke or MI. You’re pro se, so you don’t even have a lawyer who is threatening to cease to represent you. The settlement doesn’t affect your case one bit. (Indeed, your case will be dismissed when you fail to meet a May 1 deadline for submitting a Daubert-compliant expert report, since no legitimate scientist is going to blame Vioxx for the injuries caused by your preexisting genetic condition, which probably explains why you are proceeding pro se.)
Here he attacks a real vioxx victim for disagreeing with him:
MIKE - YOU ARE A CLUELESS, MEAN person! What the helx is the matter with you? YOU are ONE creepy individual. Your know what doesn't stink, does it? YOU are one mean "intellectual dawdler", same snotty attitude no matter where you are. YOU act like a dumb animal going to slaughter, just refusing to even acknowledge anything that could help. A stubborn mule sounds familiar. A sheep awaiting for slaughter is another.
WHY are you trying to stand in the way of sonmeone who is trying to help so many people get MUCH more compensation, though a pittance x 3 is still a pittance, it is a better pittance. I wonder what make you tick except your cruel, mean spirited creepy remarks. I've tried/trying to help, you just sit back being a smart aleck, takin delight in you know it all attitude. And you merely bring out the worst in just a very few individuals to assist your mean spirted ways and YOU stop the flow of very good information and that lawyers have sold you down the river. You either think you are a big shot, or you are just so hung up on your snotty judgement of life in general. Good for you, I hope all of your family admires your snotty brilliance, wow are you one smart dude!!! You need pshychological help and a redo of your personality. Start all over as you are a lost case apparently.
This is one seriously disturbed person. He is either mentally ill or a full time drunk.
From Kingston, NY, 10/17/2008
Hello xxxxxxx – WARNING TO ALL – THIS IS LONG – YOU CANNOT GET IT IN TWO SENTENCES. I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO KEEP TUNING IT TO MAKE IT SHORTER. PLEASE HIT DELETE IF NOT INTERESTED.
DEAD JAW is what happens after oral surgery, especially a tooth extracted when bone (jaw) does not heal. FOSAMAX "works" by inhibiting the body's natural ability to regenerate bone. Bone theoretically gets denser (biophosphates are imbedded in the bone, NOT because of bone growth). The jawbone is particularly susceptible. It is very serious, requires major surgery, and often leaves one deformed and also invites very dangerous infections. Worse, FOSAMAX and similar stay in bones up to 10 years. I tried to warn about FOSAMAX two years ago. Especially concurrent use of any cox-2 inhibitor as there is quite a bit of concern that since they basically stop the bone from healing (inflammation is necessary), and FOSAMAX and similar stops natural bone regeneration - double whammy.
There are also studies revealing that long term use of FOSAMAX and similar can weaken and lead to broken femurs (like yours truly) and then the fracture never heals if on vIOXX (yours truly). Much more also. BG did try to slip “settlement” forms on me and I of course said NO. I asked the courts to help find a way to alert the public on Dec. 14, 2006. Merck successfully objected to my plea to notify the public and to extend the statute of limitations. I have studied the whole Merck vIOXX tragedy diligently. Along the way, I learned much about MI/stroke issues, the “settlement”, courts, PSC, you name it! Merck has (allegedly) hidden MAJOR vIOXX problem(s) behind even worse problems of MI/stroke. They have also failed to acknowledge pulmonary embolism, kidney damage and high blood pressure. (Allegedly), they have used the MI/stroke "admittance" to shield knowledge of the other problems - vIOXX is (allegedly) a poisonous drug WAY past the fraudulent GATE process suggestions. The $5B should be $10B, lawyer fees should be all paid by Merck, all subrogation by Merck, the GATE PROCESS needs real medical certification - not Merck’s (allegedly) fraudulent view which the PSC apparently did not even challenge. Why did the large law firms simply roll over? We all now really know. Simply put, fair access to the courts has been denied, CIVIL RIGHTS have been violated, and the “average” mi/stroke litigant is pigeon holed into a (allegedly) corrupt, colluded, and fraudulent “settlement”. This was an agreement without real negotiations, a self imposed ‘fine” by Merck which is really only a small cost of doing business.
In re to FOSAMAX - it gets worse, there are studies suggesting that the every day wear and tear "stress fractures" of feet and spines often will not heal because of vIOXX and/or FOSAMAX. It becomes noticeable as one ages. It HURTS and can be very debilitating.
There is a WHOLE WORLD OF issues Merck just will not admit, meantime people do not have a clue how to treat their conditions or what caused them. This is why I have so tried to warn the public, now going on two years by the way. I did ask the courts to intercede, they refused. I DID suggest to the courts that I would make the public aware by myself if I had to. I also chose to also use the knowledge I acquired to warn the “settlement” individuals that Merck/PSC (allegedly) is pulling another fast one. I am just fine in my own litigation. I am certainly not bitter of initially not being in the settlement (again, I refused). Almost like it is a duty to help others at this point so they may have a chance of being FAIRLY treated -nothing else behind it! Too bad a few loud voices try to drown me out - with the additional support (I have much though) this “settlement” (my opinion) could be improved more rapidly.
I do pray that you do not have Dead Jaw. I am finding out that I may have it also, but I am not sure yet.
Sincerely
Dennis Harrison
From Kingston, NY, 10/17/2008
Hey Solumn
I can keep going. You know, YOU started this. I never went after anyone except Merck, and frankly MANY, MANY damaged and then double damaged wish to. Why not stop. I will keep on if you do in re to these stupid insults. I will however feel free to post about Merck and how the (alleged) collusion took place. You have no right to stop that, futhermore it is simply the case. You should know by now I do not fear anything, the reason is simple. The TRUTH TRUMPS. So, please get out of my way, but more imporant and if you only will do one thing, PLEASE stop insulting me or ask more of the same. It is your choice.
I would, though, really like to know if you were damaged by vIOXX or if you are just providing opinion. It does matter in how people view your thoughts. Please be kind enough to let me/all of us know. Thankx.
From SLC, UT, 10/16/2008
Joan:
Your racist, anti-semetic comments expose a bitter, twisted mind.
I see that not only did the Federal Court throw out your RICO case against Merck, they noted that you would face "sanctions" if you continued with your fantasy based lawsuits.
Now your alter-ego, Dennis Harrison, is trying to get vioxx victims to give up their settlements, and join in another make-believe RICO case.
You show your ignorance, paranoia and mental problems with everything you do or write.
You should seek counseling. If you don't want to get help from mental health professionals, at least speak to you minister, priest, or rabbi.
Get help.
From Lake Placid, FL, 10/15/2008
Solomon Wiseman, you of all people should be concern with what Merck has done to the American population, Killing human beings, is a crime especially for profit. I have an opinion that you just might be a Jew or a Lawyer. No matter who you are with a name like yours must have a big nose. You need to put it up Merck. never the less, Merck & Co. Inc. is a German owned company. With that kind of repretation from the past, you should be concern with the future. It appears that you must be brain washed or not a victim of Vioxx. If you are you would have a total different thought.I do not discriminate against anyone who is a victim."To know one is to be one."
From Kingston, NY, 10/15/2008
By Soloman Wiseman
From SLC, UT, 10/14/2008
John.....Before you become of victim of this idiot, google his name (Dennis Harrison) and the word vioxx.
--- > John - please do in fact do the Google, please. Solemn is a fruitcake and seems to have no injury at all, if I am wrong then I apologize to him. I do not apologize for some what seems rudenss, as he started it and has gone over the top many times. He wouln't have a chance with me, but I don't wish to turn this blog site into a zoo.
You will see that he is a nut that uses many aliases and has posted his wild conspiracy theories all over the net.
---> no aliases, conspiracy theory is true, and MANY know it, but solumn seems to work for merck, paid by them or something I cannot figure out.
When you check him out, you will find that he can't even qualify for the vioxx settlement because he has never had a heart attack or stroke. He's just a pathetic little man trying to get attention.
-- > wrong, I have faced death 3 times min and paralysis at least 2x because of vIOXX and FOSMAX. Merck can make exceptions, they sent me paperwork; I specifically wrote to the right people NO, and please leave me alone till I see them in court and work with some to slap some MAJOR CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIONS on Merck, PSC, and maybe 1-2 others, maybe even the court(s) and biggie law firms..
If you have a problem with your attorney, your best bet would be to contact a different lawyer in your area, or, if you think he was negligent, contact your local Bar Association.
--- > good luck there, by design, not chance ALL of your options have been taken away; Try 30 or 40 and you'll see. I know a LOT who have tried, none succeed.
However, do yourself a favor and steer clear of this kook and his paranoid fantasies.
---> my mental fortitude is as strong as they come. Losers like solumn that reamain clueless and love to rant and rave about me merely slow the wheels of Justice down. They should be ashamed of themselves frankly. Also, it really doesn't bother me to be called whatever one wants, when one is correct and one knows it, nothing can stop that. Solumn is weird and a plain dawdling intellectual who loves to hear himself speak. I think he was born with a silver spoon and never had a difficult day in his life. I just cannot get at al that vIOXX affected him or anyone in his family, I wish he would explain what his skin in this is. He won't. He ius also a blusterign coward.
From SLC, UT, 10/14/2008
John.....Before you become of victim of this idiot, google his name (Dennis Harrison) and the word vioxx. You will see that he is a nut that uses many aliases and has posted his wild conspiracy theories all over the net. When you check him out, you will find that he can't even qualify for the vioxx settlement because he has never had a heart attack or stroke. He's just a pathetic little man trying to get attention.
If you have a problem with your attorney, your best bet would be to contact a different lawyer in your area, or, if you think he was negligent, contact your local Bar Association. However, do yourself a favor and steer clear of this kook and his paranoid fantasies.
From Kingston, NY, 10/14/2008
John - I would suggest joining the vIOXX Plaintiff Education Group (vPEG) - we are very close to 500 now and just keep growing. It is very friendly territory, doesn't tolerate abuse too easily and listens to all views pro or con. One must be a real Plaintiff and must be willing to verify that. You could be the 500th person! Follow the instructions and apply at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MerckSettlement/
also you may wish to watch this video first:
YOU TUBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZFTN7eGNE0
You will see reference to an "action" group and a "RICO" group. They are "children" of vPEG - it has been growing so fast that we had to segment it to accelerate some plans we have. Suggest just join if you wish vPEG, and see how it goes for you. Then later you may or may not wish to consider the other ones - they are smaller but are very focused. It is not well known, but we really ARE working several issues to get this junky DEAL fixed and CIVIL RIGHTS restored, as a Plaintiff, you likely have an idea of the collusion, corruption, and right to fair legal representation issues. In fact, you are now are likley to enter the latter. Hope you consider joining, and you may be surprised - but give it a tiny bit of time... thankx - bones
From ocala, FL, 10/14/2008
Gotta ask someone,my lawyer dropped the ball. He decided he was not going to handle Vioxx cases,and forgot to tell me.What other options do I have? Just had my 2nd heart attack,medication costs are killing me
From Kingston, NY, 10/13/2008
Hold Big Pharma Responsible for Dangerous Drugs
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http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/holdpharmaaccountable
From Kingston, NY, 10/13/2008
Shine a Light on Drug Industry Influence ... http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/sunshine
From Kingston, NY, 10/13/2008
Shine a Light on Drug Industry Influence http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/sunshine Target: Member of Congress Sponsored by: National Coalition for Appropriate Prescribing Note: We greatly appreciate international support, but US signatures only please! Only US signatures will influence congress in this matter. Drug marketing is out of control. Help send a message to Congress. Support the Physician Payments Sunshine Act, which will require drug companies to publicly report their gifts and payments to doctors. Drug companies spend at least $25 billion each year marketing to doctors. We pay for that with every drug we buy. And studies prove that marketing causes doctors to prescribe higher-cost drugs. Some new drugs also have safety risks (like Vioxx). By increasing transparency, the Sunshine Act will help protect patients and help counter the skyrocketing costs of drugs. Sign this petition today to ask your members of Congress to support these bills. Shine a light on undue influence by the drug industry. For more information on: � industry payments to doctors http://www.prescriptionproject.org/tools/solutions_factsheets/files/0006.pdf � the Sunshine Act House and Senate bills http://www.prescriptionproject.org/tools/solutions_factsheets/files/0008.pdf � the National Coalition for Appropriate Prescribing http://www.prescriptionproject.org/tools/solutions_resources/files/0007.pdf
From Reno, NV, 10/13/2008
Help stop the theft and save lives. Sign the petition at:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/corporate-lawsuit-lottery
From Kingston, NY, 10/13/2008
I am as capitalistic and business oriented as they come, pure bred virtually, However, I more than understand the bigger picture here, and I see you cannot yet. I will explain maybe tomorrow or the next day. Business, by the way, MUCH HAVE A MAJOR PROFIT MOTIVE - but left unchecked they will run rampant with pollution, greedy destructive banking practices (we know a lot of that lately, don'w we.), American worksers at a very unfair labor practice of allowing free trade, but not FAIR trade, prison labor, MAJOR (not minor) abuse to their citizens, and in re to drug companies, unless they are provided proper checks and balances, including recrimination for wanton, reckless, unfair, and dangerous, even murderous behavior in the good ol' cost/benefit of NOT providing even fair warning as well as collusiion, they will just keep gettin worse. Again it is well known. Merck can easily afford a 5x aggregate compensation (like $25B) but done the right way, can proably bet by with about $12B. They will not miss one procuct pipeline, and in fact would then be motivated to develop the life saving drugs and those drugs which improve life quality/style - INSTEAD OF MAJOR PROFITS ON THE QUICK and EASY me too drugs, rushed to market when they should not be. A MAJOR, well beyond this collusive, corrupted fraud of a settlement WILL help them, not hurt them, in the long run. It would also do so for the industry. EVEN MANY, MANY of their own employees know it, and say it - of which I am not (NOW) at liberty to say how I know - but it is true. So take a bigger, longer term view and if you do have business experience and macro economic theory at a minimum in your portoflio, it may pay to spend some time thinking a bit more. I know exactly where you are coming from, but you do have it a bit wrong. Thankx!
From Reno, NV, 10/12/2008
HARRISON, you and your cronies are extorting money that could be used to develop new medications that could save millions of people around the world. People are DYING because you are trying to STEAL the money that that could save them. How is what you are doing NOT murder? For the billions you are STEALING, children might have been cured. Lives might have been SAVED. But your lawsuits are STEALING the research money, and because of that the children are DYING. You and your buddies who are trying to get rich have KILLED them. Whine some more about how bad you are being treated!
From Kingston, NY, 10/12/2008
IN re to FDA and Merck cozy relationship:
It is called funding the FDA, owning the FDA and bullying the FDA; allo government sanctioned and approved. The courts, PSC, Merck, large law firms, the FDA enjoy a very comfy collusive and corrupt perverted and persavise relationship. All pharma are there, but Merck is the baddest of the bad. It is quite well known actually, just no-one wishes to really do anything except make believe with patchwork "new" regulations, just to "buy" time and get elected again. Answer is simple though, Merck should give the FDA $1B, back off and let the FDA fix itself - and then there needs to be non collusive, non corrupt annual funding methods re-installed like it used to be. It is not really that complex. Preventing the next near 200,000 of deaths and maiming without warning (and with actively deceit by concealment by the way) CAN indeed be prevented. It starts with us and our kids benefit.
Mistake; the only mistake is that they planned to allow about 25,000 to die, but it got crazy and they were afraid of MANY, MANY more than the near 200,000 (and that is low, by the way, and includes only USA, so they had to pull the plug. They felt that the original estimate of "only" 25,000 was low enough that they did not need to warn what they knew since about 1996, when the plan was conceived. They also just too arrogant as there is no law protecting the public, so in will have to come RICO, and some likley go to jail. Else, they can re-negotiate fairly and admit guilt, besides backing off the FDA. That choice is simply theirs, and possibly the PSC, the courts, and the large law firms may wish to help Merck due to the right thing, because I will leave them alone for now, but (allegedly) they just may have something to do with the cover-up...
I'll answer DAN's cluelessness later today or tomorrow, typical Q/A form seems to be popular. Thanks for the opportunity you are providing me,
Dan, to again point out how off you are. In the meantime, I will be having some fun at a picnic, so I'll just do this shortie as I picked up something form TOPIX and figured I would help them out over there. Here is that:
MISTAKE?
It was no mistake; my gosh; it is called funding the FDA, owning the FDA and bullying the FDA; allo government sanctioned and approved. The courts, PSC, Merck, large law firms, the FDA enjoy a very comfy collusive and corrupt perverted and persavise relationship. All pharma are there, but Merck is the baddest of the bad. It is quite well known actually, just no-one wishes to really do anything except make believe with patchwork "new" regulations, just to "buy" time and get elected again. Answer is simple though, Merck should give the FDA $1B, back off and let the FDA fix itself - and then there needs to be non collusive, non corrupt annual funding methods re-installed like it used to be. It is not really that complex. Preventing the next near 200,000 of deaths and maiming without warning (and with actively deceit by concealment by the way) CAN indeed be prevented. It starts with us and our kids benefit.
Mistake; the only mistake is that they planned to allow about 25,000 to die, but it got crazy and they were afraid of MANY, MANY more than the near 200,000 (and that is low, by the way, and includes only USA, so they had to pull the plug. They felt that the original estimate of "only" 25,000 was low enough that they did not need to warn what they knew since about 1996, when the plan was conceived. They also just too arrogant as there is no law protecting the public, so in will have to come RICO, and some likley go to jail. Else, they can re-negotiate fairly and admit guilt, besides backing off the FDA. That choice is simply theirs, and possibly the PSC, the courts, and the large law firms may wish to help Merck due to the right thing, because I will leave them alone for now, but (allegedly) they just may have something to do with the cover-up...
no name wrote:
They made amistake so face the
From Reno, NV, 10/11/2008
A new medication that could cure HIV, or renal disease, or MS, or cancer....
But it doesn't exist because the drug companies are spending billions paying off questionable lawsuits, instead of using that money for the research needed to find those cures.
Questionable lawsuits? You bet! Corporations are seen as easy targets with deep pockets. It's often cheaper to settle lawsuits rather than spend the time and money to fight them in court. Most of the Vioxx cases that went to trial were won by Merck. If they had followed their original plan of fighting each case individually in court, they would probably have paid 50 people, instead of 50,000. Now they are paying people who took Vioxx and had a heart attack, even if that person is 5'8", weighs 320 pounds, smoked for 30 years, drinks a six pack of beer a day, and does nothing more physical than using the TV remote. If a doctor gave them Vioxx, then they can run into a lawyer's office and shout "BINGO!".
Until we have laws that prevent people from using our drug companies as their private lottery, millions will die every year from illnesses that could have been cured. The next time someone you know is diagnosed with cancer, think about these lawsuits, and wonder if that's why a vaccine doesn't exist yet.
From Catskill, NY, 10/10/2008
• By Solomon Wiseman
From SLC, UT, 10/10/2008
Those doing research on the use of Vioxx should not mistake the rambling comments of Mr Harrison as being representative of the majority of the plaintiffs in the Vioxx settlement.
< --- they are factual, I must say alleged. I would wager anything that it is a majority. I wonder if you were affected? I was, were you? What is your stake in this?
Those people have evaluated the effects of Vioxx on themselves or family members, and agreed to the negotiated monetary settlement offered by Merck.
< --- YOU have that wrong (again); the words COLLUSIVE and CORRUPTED DEAL and COERCISON and DURESS are well known to almost anyone but apparently you. I don’t think you read, you look at 1-2 lines and form your “intellectually dawdling opinion”. It seems that you like to hear yourself “intellectualize”, don’t you?
Google the words "Dennis Harrison Vioxx", and you will find that he has been posting this same nonsense all over the internet for years.
< --- Actually it is not the same, I have virtually the whole range from pre-“settlement” (including a very accurate description of what I felt the DEAL would be – i.e. my 1-13-07 description is startling similar to the ACTUAL Settlement (DEAL) and what is going on now. Go ahead and find that, it will shock you as to the concepts which in affect DID HAPPEN. Surely, I most know something, true? Please, please do the Google Mr. Solumn asks for.
He is suffering from compulsive behavior issues, and even displays symptons of psychosis.
< --- you are suffering from being a lazy, dawdling, intellectual. Else you are under the thumb of Merck somehow. Only by due viligance of studying each and every move of Merck, the PSC, and the courts one would have any chance of being so stunningly on target from beginning to end. Not boasting, but you are attempting to place my credibility at risk. If you are so interested in Merck/vIOXX; what did you do?
The story of Vioxx, its use, side effects, and withdrawal should be researched and told. < Solumn, you act weird.
I just hope that those doing that research can ignore those disturbed individuals who serve to only muddy the waters of an already complicated subject.
< --- VAST amounts of reseach DO exist. They fully support my position(s) by the way. Just that great philosophers of our time, such as yourself, chose to preach and evangelize individuals into being inactive and take the lousy “settlement” as is, along with is major CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS of denying fair access to the court. Which by the way, is also well known.
Mr. Solumn – YOU really don’t have a clue, do you? You may be the most unplugged person I have run into, certainly the most robust king of weird philosophy. Please, again, where is your interest in vIOXX lie? Please tell the truth and not philosophize.
From SLC, UT, 10/10/2008
Those doing research on the use of Vioxx should not mistake the rambling comments of Mr Harrison as being representative of the majority of the plaintiffs in the Vioxx settlement. Those people have evaluated the effects of Vioxx on themselves or family members, and agreed to the negotiated monetary settlement offered by Merck.
Google the words "Dennis Harrison Vioxx", and you will find that he has been posting this same nonsense all over the internet for years. He is suffering from compulsive behavior issues, and even displays symptons of psychosis.
The story of Vioxx, its use, side effects, and withdrawal should be researched and told. I just hope that those doing that research can ignore those disturbed individuals who serve to only muddy the waters of an already complicated subject.
From Catskill, NY, 10/06/2008
OK this is not Q/A, but if you are a vIOXX Plaintiff – please feel free to request to request joining the vIOXX Education Plaintiff Education Group (that is MOM) and if you are really comitted, there are two off shoots; one is beginning real ACTION ITEMS by real people (AvPEG) and one is considering filing a cluster of RICO lawsuits, we are now educating ourselves there. Hopefully, Merck will come to their senses and meet with some of us that KNOW HOW TO NEGOTIATE, unlike the hapless (or collusive>) PSC, and we feel that perhaps the courts know enough about our very honest and TRUE attempt with all of the information we have that they will be glad to help us.
--- > please let us know is you are interested in a Amicus curiae to Writ of Certiorari. < -----
We have many things now going on, and we certainly are feeling worthy of 50,000+ civil right violations now being presented to the UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
I’m sorry for getting a bit long, but I do have many more Merck Employees like the following, you may find it interesting.
From REAL MERCK people and VERY RECENT!
Re: Mrk is dysfunctional company?????
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Merck needs a true messenger with credibility and trust. Currently there is no trust and lets make a case and point, this is not the right management team to do battle nor to turn things around. Too many arrogant losers with bad track record in high management positions (legacy of Vioxx). It is not just about one event regrettably it is an emerging pattern and series of missteps and poor decision making at the top. Current management team is rotting and dysfunctional on all fronts. Too much infighting and back stabbing, analysis paralysis and lets not forget the famous Merck bureaucracy and lack of accountability. Yes there is no accountability at the top. They have got the science wrong which cannot be forgiven. Take research for instance Kim and team cannot read the tea leaves from the FDA and one has to say he is a failure (Arcoxia was to be a sure thing too). Obviously there is a fundamental fatal flaw in the delivery of effective safe medicines. Look at the vaccine area they cannot manufacture their products to needed capacity and have quality control problem. The manufacturing area is a disaster. EPA citations on enviornmental hazard. Sales marketing and business decision making are totally a dismal. Public affairs disaster with Enhance. What a joke! Yes the press does not like Merck and pharma in large part due to the DTC and Vioxx litigation. The Company is under siege from the Feds. Subject to a new Compliance program . Litigation expenses continue (frazier may have saved the company but the misery and work enviornment is poor). Doctors have signs saying Merck reps not welcomed.. We are in the business of selling medicines and not defending about lies and sharing nice platitudes....take industry leadership. Top employees have no reason to stay and this is a far short of what Merck once used to be. Clark and team have squandered the core values of trust and credibility. It is a shameful disappointment to be an employee of the greatly admired company we called Merck. Cannot imagine that Mr. Clark has lowered that standards even lower than that of Mr. Gilmartinʼs legacy. What is surprising is that even with 35 plus years of service Clark has no connectivity with the grass roots of the organization. One would think employees would trust him since he is one of us. So far his new programs beyond cost cutting and to improve the companies integration and functionality (COMET and E2E) have failed. Pre Enhance stock price run up can be summed up as a mirage and not based on reality of what the company was truly capable of delivering. On all counts Clark and team are a failure.
Former celebrex/bextra rep here
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Did anyone see the video clips of the "Vioxx V reps" on pharmalot? Don't hang your head in shame. Pfizer was just as stupid, and just as criminal in our promotion of bextra and celebrex as you guys were with Vioxx. I always asked why and how I was supposed to sell bextra for pre/post op analgesia without an indication. I always asked why and how I was to sample bextra 20 mgs to orthos when OA and RA were indicated for 10 mg each. The answer from Pfizer legal? "bextra is indicated at 20 mg BID for primary dysmenorhea" I said "I know. But orthos don't treat it" Then I got canned
i don't think thats the reason. come on, the data for cordaptive sucked, ok. it was a dog, and although you can bring a dog to market, you can't bring a dog to market that you can't answer the safety questions. we may have been able to give us reps the bullshit "we don't believe there are any long term safety problems with blocking the dp1 receptor" response (which if you remember was exactly what they said to us at training meetings) but you can't give that to the fda. if we could have proven long term safety data of the product, the fda would have said to us "approved, now go try to sell this dog for 5 bucks a pill when its no f'ing better than whats out there at 1/10th the cost". they don't care if we fail on the sales end, but they do have an interest in knowing if its safe or not, and we are not exactly operating from a position of trust with either the fda or the public. hell, do you trust us? I would love to but our track record is a bit shady
Re: FDA conflict of interest?
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the fda promoting generics is nothing new-they have always favored non-branded products-not just for for medicare,medicaid but dod, va ect. and let's be real honest here-rightly so. zoc., vaso., priniv., fos. all now available as generics. merck should have gone into the generic buisness long ago and never dumped medco.
as for the fda being tougher on nda's we have merck and vioxx to thank. remember the fda was called in front of congress to testify as to why vioxx was ever approved in the first place. if there is one thing a gov. agency hates its to be called into congress and gov. agencies have long memories. what's funny is the merck attitude and hutzpah of expecting thier drugs to just sail thru. merck can expect "micro-scrutinity" and approval difficulties for many years to come.
Re: FDA conflict of interest?
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The "chuzpah" displayed (and felt) by many involved in FDA submissions stems from our tradition (read that as "how we used to do it") of being so well prepared for, and for having so well pre-prepared, the FDA and it's Advisory Committees that Merck's "clear-sailing" through the process was, effectively, a given.
I remember hearing the stories about HOW ABSOLUTELY SUPERIOR we were in not only the science we did, but in how we packaged it for submission. Stories about off-the-wall questions being asked, and our ability to immediately produce a 3-inch thick file from banker's box #27b that directly addressed the question and showed that, if the "off-the-wall" issue were real, our science clearly demonstrated that the issue implied some additional benefit to our product.
Oh ... for the good old days.
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NOTE by DH: Point is to the downtrodden and ones who feel that they have lost hope. Please hang in there, find ways to support us, and let’s see what happens…
Thank You.
From Catskill, NY, 10/06/2008
Well that was a bit off key, now wasn't it. Update - I am now officially an op-out. Gee, 200 - 300 pts sure makes believe it is reasonable. It is absurd, and so is it for many others. We mounting several actions against Merck. YOU just dont't get it, or you are working/ very sympathetic of a (alleged....etc.) MASS MURDEDER, proven too have been magnificant at deceit by concealment, fraudulent marketing, and we can easily add some new allegations of (collusion, cohersion, CIVIL RIGHTS violations, PATTERNS (RICO loves patterns..), and there are so many nice fitting RICO allegations/accusations coming soon, and more... it is about time for Merck to really and earnestly meet some at the negotiating table for the 50,000+ who are in the process of surving a MASS murder/maiming attempt and moving on to CIVIL RIGHT VIOLATIONS, collusion with the PSC, and I'm leaving out the courts for now as I do indeed pray for them...
Thank You for your continued concern.
Sincerely
From SLC, UT, 10/05/2008
Mr Harrison's most recent comment (below) confirms my earlier observation (see 9/21/08) that these illiterate tirades are symptoms of a person with uncontrolled mental difficulties.
It's very unfair to the true victims of this medication that this one disturbed person may be seen by the general public as speaking for them.
Perhaps he should seek a judgement against Merck for causing his immature behavior and his child-like tantrums. He would be well advised to invest any recovery in mental health counseling.
From Catskill, NY, 10/02/2008
FROM ANOTHER POST SITE (TOPIX).... from myself.
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MANY wrongs there, respectively Mike. In fact, I am one of the very, very few trying HARD to get ALL 50,000 fair compensation - including but not limited:
-0- legal fees (all should be paid by Merck)
-0- subrogation paid by litigant. All subrogation paid by Merck only
I could give two shix about bone/pine in the settlement - in fact I DO NOT WANT THAT!!!! My evidence is so overwhelming and includes more, I can pulverize Merck in front of a jury. Joke it you wish, but that is just the "case".
SURE, not including Pulmonary Embolism and kidney problems SHOULD be included - SO BY THE WAY SHOULD MERCK ADD all ill-gotten gains, or say another $5B to be allocated amongst all 50,000 approximately. I don't wish a PENNY of that, again I will pulverize them in front of a jury.
IF THEY DO NOT cooperate and fix this crappy settlement as per above - at a minimum, many RICO will fly their way. It is THEIR CHOICE!
My motiviation is only to SHARE THE DAMNING evidence I have collected, beyond your wildest imagination by the way - and PUT PRESSURE ON MERCK TO PROVIDE FAIR COMPENSATION to SETTLEMENT INDIVIDUALS, not me, I am JUST FINE on my own. Can you now understand that? Do you wish to continue to attempt to humilate some-one fighting for YOU included? It HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FIRST ROUND OF PAYMENTS - I KNOW/TALK HOURS, HOURS AND HOURS WITH OPT-INS, OPT-OUTS, LEFT-OUTS, TO BE KICKED-OUTS who have virtually nothing for food or shelter.
WHY? Because I can and have a unique position and insight. I do not have to be concerned about an attorney doing the same to me as MOST (not all) lawyers have done to vIOXX litigants, and I know you understand coercision, collusion, and undue duress? I have learned MUCH, and it is ONLY the right thing to do... man, please READ and listen even a tiny bit!
From Piscataway, NJ, 10/02/2008
THIS was provided, a while back to me. I am pro se, and do not need to worry about attorney recrimination, like so, so many I hear of all the time... So, I had requested if I could POST THIS concise, direct blog. And it DOES represent a majority view, by the way.
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Subject: [MerckSettlement] My Post to - PUBLIC CITIZEN
Has your group looked at the so called VIOXX settlement at all? It
seems like a cause that would interest you. They say it is the model
for product liability cases if the future. The settlement is
horribly skewed towards Merck. It was "negotiated" by a small group
of attorneys in a back room someplace. It forced is victims to sign
away our rights and settle for "a pig in a poke" because we don't yet
have any idea of what if anything we'll be getting. We are penalized
for any and just about all preexisting conditions - when in fact had
there been appropriate warnings our doctors would not have Rx'd
Vioxx. (Much like birth control pills of today and smokers.) So
many of us have completely lost our lives as we knew them and now we
are being victimized yet again by Merck aided and abetted by our
lawyers who were supposed to be advocating for us. Personally? I am
in the MI group, bypass surgery, and several stents later I am still
disabled (since 2001) and unable to work. I guess I must say that I
am lucky - I still have my life and this drug killed and maimed (the
stroke folks) so many. The human toll is huge and Merck and the
lawyers could care less. Merck wants to minimize what has happened
to us and our lawyers are salivating in anticipation of a big payday
for little to no work. There is a group on Yahoo where many of us
have told our stories - vPEG (vIOXX Plaintiff's Education Group), in
addition to related goups AvPEG and RvPEG (Action, and RICO
respectfully Plaintiff Education Group)
From Lake Placid, FL, 09/30/2008
The fair settlement could include your attorney fees and Merck's attorney fees be paid by Merck and not out of your settlement. Any Medicare or Medicade payments made to the Government be seperate and not liened on your settlement. Because Medicaid is your tax dollars already given to the Health care agnecy and many have received grants for that purpose. So you would be paying twice. Let Merck include that payment back to the government for those with out insuranc. Fair settlement allows the claimant to deceide what the fair damages are and not Merck et al take it or leave it.
From Atlanta, GA, 09/26/2008
Hey Guys there is a website that you can go on and it shows you the list of people that are eligible for payment and the 3rd party list as well. Check it out and see if any of your names appears.
http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/mass-tort/vioxx/index.htm
From Kingston, NY, 09/23/2008
OK, we do want an update on MDL status, right? this certainly is not very detailed, but it provides the 'gist"...
THIS IS ONLY A VERY BRIEF ONLINE UPDATE – THAT IS ALL IT IS; just a fyi done in real time. Please just put it in perspective as a best view of what I hear and interpret… it is not complete…
That said I estimate based upon the number of 50,000 (I am not separating strokes from MI, so consider it within 30% of a reasonable estimate). The issue is not so much the exact number details as it is the overall process progress – it means there seems to be many issues, and the process is plodding along..– I would hate to be someone who based their decision based upon an early payment.
25% of claimants for whatever reason seem to be deficient; they DO like to blame the field attorneys
25% in Gate
50% in “que”(personally, I think that means waiting for any action)
“payments” go out in 3rd week every mth.; Aug some; Sept some (didn’t say how many – I am sure it is teensy… funny, so many specific numbers mentioned, but not on how many were paid…)
11% of the emails in re to “deficiency” messages from BG to lawyers remain unopened – not even read by the attorneys – that is shameful, Means they just don’t really care (we know that anyway), and they never did care except to let things plod along, and collect when/what they can. Their clients are quite obviously their secondary considerations. This, of course EXCLUDES the two good ones that VPEG knows about
INTERESTING… it seems that the TRIAL PACKAGE is under lock and key from the AGs; AGs are being directed towards the Doc Depository. However, I heard (1-2 lines) that the Doc. Depository DOES NOT HAVE ALL THAT THE TRIAL PACKAGE HAS… I don’t know for sure… BUT that sure does not seem transparent to me… seems like someone is being protected about something….
Other than that – as usual – some glad handling, etc.
From Eastpointe, MI, 09/22/2008
Okay, I am tired of people accusing vpeg of being fakes. I wish I could say I was one, but I can't. First off to those that don't know anything, all of us at vpeg are involved with the settlement. All of us are jumping through the hoops called gates. When I had my heart attack I was very busy, walked every day, worked, bicyled, horseback riding. Had a brand new truck, went camping several times a year. Now, what do I have? A bum ticker, no new truck, no job, got fired, and can't walk more then a mile or less. The changes in my life were drastic compared to some who are worst. I believe that maybe you should take a look at yourselves before you make any statements against people who are trully hurting. If you want to defend Merck for lieing and killing then do so, but I have read enough now to know that Merck new what it was doing with vioxx, but because they were money hungrey they put the american citizens last instead of first. And now the government is trying to do the same. Actions speak louder then words.
From Catskill, NY, 09/22/2008
YOU certainly have that wrong, but that's ok, no problem...
Much is going on... it is amazing how people simply aren't even respectful of the help offered... sure, don't wish it, then just ignore it, but the DISRESPECT, I cannot figure out..
Oh, well - that said we are aware, quite so, of a few taking PRO-MERCK stands and trying to block our efforts to make the BEAST (that be Merck) come clean and fair... NOT accusing you of that, you simply seem confused... but just so ya know...
Anyway, thankx - let's see how it goes...
From SLC, UT, 09/21/2008
Compulsion --> Obsession --> Derangement
These illiterate tirades reflect the mentality of these pathetic
nay-sayers. How can anyone possibly understand such incoherent ramblings? This greedy litle person, angry at not getting a piece of the settlement, behaves like a child having a tantrum.
There are many people around the world who are alive today because companies like Merck have developed life saving medications.
From Catskil., NY, 09/21/2008
By Dan Meldar
From Reno, NV, 09/19/2008
Vioxx was like a magnifying glass. It magnified the chances of a heart attack or stroke, but the CAUSES of those problems were things like overweight, blood pressure, general health, family history, and LIFESTYLE (fried foods, smoking, drugs, alcohol, etc).
--- > PARTLY TRUE, PARTLY NOT, PARTLY VERY MISLEADING; Mr. Meldar has actually just made a VERY GOOD incriminating point. If one had one or more pre-existing conditions, they were indeed "magnified" by vIOXX - that is a major point AGAINST MERCK. They SHOULD NOT HAVE taken the poison. They SHOULD have been warned, as then their chances for survival were much worsened. Merck (allegedly, etc) knew this. IT WAS definitively considered as something that WOULD help the Plaintiffs in litigation. What happened? First, Merck has great lawyers, they used the pre-existing conditions to confuse the heck of jurors, and that is what Defense lawyers do very well. Good job Merck Defense, very tricky.
Second, since there (allegedly, etc. again) WAS collusion between the PSC, Merck and the biggie law firms; they decided not to utilize this great argument in their favor. No congrats here, that is shameful and immoral.
Merck admitted their mistake and offered to pay nearly 5 Billion dollars in compensation.
--- > They had to do something. First it had to come off the market as it was murdering and maiming WAY beyond what they had planned and allowed for profit sake. Such allegations, by the way are appropriate, as disgusting as it is, and is one reason of why RICO must enter the scene. They (alleged again) expected about 25,000 to die, but when approx. 100,000 did (and likely nearly 2x that - and that is USA only - yes YOUR fellow American Citizens), and about the same now maimed for life. If it had gone to one million, they would have had to go out of business, they just din't want that. Guilt, they have not technically done that, they ALWAYS just do NOT admit guilt. The $5B is merely a cost of doing business, that is all it is. And it comes to a disgusting 200K GROSS, and LESS THAN 100K NET on AVERAGE, and that is assuming they DO KICK OUT 50% going through the fraudulent "gate" process, which should have been medically and independently certified, NOT dominated by Merck, which it was. YES, Merck is really getting away on the cheap and if they get away with it will continue (here again allgedly) their MURDEROUS, colluded, corrupted, neglectful, fraudulent ways. Merck "offered" to pay some cost of doing busiess, and spit at everyone on the way out the door. I chose to look to STOP this NONSENSE NOW.
The money won't replace someone lost, or repair injury, but they are at least doing something.
--- > THEY are merely attempting to get aaway with as little $ for cost of doing busienss, that' all. $100k for a heart attack or stroke, let alone a Pulmonary Embolism as the blood clotter drug does its thing and ruins many organs... would you take $100K for that, HEY even $1M - NOT ME!!! NO way, keep the money and stop the MUREROUS, MAIMING ways.
They could have forced the plaintiffs to wait many more years, and spend a fortune in court. This settlement should be an example for corporations for years to come.
--- > IF it becomes an "example" WE are ALL really in trouble. It has been done in secrecy, no transparency. The courts allowed it to continue without a level playing field, and actually the courts sanctioned the collusion. It has been done in an attempt to STOP your CIVIL RIGHTS of having your day in court. It has been done via the collusion of Merck, the PSC, and the biggie law firms. I will (for now, let's see... but I have an opinion) for now not mention the courts... but let's see... Another reason by the way for R-I-C-0.
From Catskil., NY, 09/20/2008
By Solomon Wiseman
From SLC, UT, 09/19/2008
So many of those protesting Merck's settlement agreement are people who did not have standing in the settlement.
--- > THE Settlement is a sham! I am extremely close to it in so many ways, and have learned so much it is just so horrific, just disgusting! Legal rights hhave been just stolen, there WAS a decision not to warn and instead let many people more than necessary DIE, cover it up, get the courts to say ok and smooth it over. Frankly this crappy settlemtn is so flawed, so pitiful, I AM KIND OF PROUD NOT TO BE INVOLVED. IN FACT, LESS THAN ONE WEEK AFTER IT WAS ANNOUNCED - I CALLED MERCK AND THE PSC AND ASKED THEM TO PLEASE NOT EXPAND IT AND INCLUDE ME. I can smell a RAT miles a way. Talking about RATS, this is a case (and there are many more...) where the RATS in the laboratory were not used, and the RATS at Merck (and more - like the colluded and corrupt PSC and the Biggie Law firms)perverted and pervaded their unscrupulous way into areas I just would never have believed. YOU are an AMERICAN CITIZEN. Do you wish your rights to continue to be destroyed. If you do, you deserve what you get. You are wrong.
They complain about those who accepted the settlement.
--- > Wrong; we could care less who accepted the system. have MANY friends who accepted it and they feel so crappy about being beaten and forced into it. YES, that is so true - but you just don't know. Merck et all need to meet their maker.
Why? What is the true motivation of those who rant about a RICO case, or a civil rights case? Could it be that they are simply angry that they did not qualify for a financial settlement?
--- > Wrong it is to either put Merck et all in jail or they come clean, and re-do the settlement to at least 5x the overall compensation, fix the crummy artificial "gate" process which is dominated by Merck's incredulous and strange view, give the FDA one Billion dollars and back off to fix itself, find a non-corrupted way of funding the FDA, send a STRONG WARNING TO lawyers and the courts, must I go on? Are you afraid of this? If you are, I don't know why? If you are not and if you finally realize it, please join and help right this wrong, and prevent it in the futured. Our children will have to live with what we do here, as it will not stop unless WE STOP IT! Get it?
Research will show that there are people attacking the the plaintiffs as well as Merck, and whose compulsion has devolved into obsession and is now approaching derangement. Cogent arguements escape them. Observers would be well advised to remember the tenet: Follow the money.
--- > YES - the money is with MERCK! and the law firms? Also, before that here you are intellectualizing a bit too much? what is your background?
--- > Thank You for the couterview though. I am not kidding. It does show what most i the public believe, and that is just tragic. It help us know what we must do. I hope to shake hands with you in the future.
Dennis Harrison
bones
VPEG
YOU TUBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZFTN7eGNE0
MarketPlace
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/08/04/vioxx_payouts/
Tort Reform and the 2008 Election
The Vioxx Settlement, the settlement industry has to step up.
http://www.thesettlementchannel.com/
From SLC, UT, 09/19/2008
So many of those protesting Merck's settlement agreement are people who did not have standing in the settlement. They complain about those who accepted the settlement. Why? What is the true motivation of those who rant about a RICO case, or a civil rights case? Could it be that they are simply angry that they did not qualify for a financial settlement? Research will show that there are people attacking the the plaintiffs as well as Merck, and whose compulsion has devolved into obsession and is now approaching derangement. Cogent arguements escape them. Observers would be well advised to remember the tenet: Follow the money.
From Reno, NV, 09/19/2008
Vioxx was like a magnifying glass. It magnified the chances of a heart attack or stroke, but the CAUSES of those problems were things like overweight, blood pressure, general health, family history, and LIFESTYLE (fried foods, smoking, drugs, alcohol, etc). Merck admitted their mistake and offered to pay nearly 5 Billion dollars in compensation. The money won't replace someone lost, or repair injury, but they are at least doing something. They could have forced the plaintiffs to wait many more years, and spend a fortune in court. This settlement should be an example for corporations for years to come.
From Catskil., NY, 09/18/2008
RONALD It might be a good idea to go to the VPEG (vIOXX Plaintiff Education Group website and join; lots of people, information and Q/A at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MerckSettlement/ also please visit the youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZFTN7eGNE0 These should be helpful. Thankx
From edinburgh, IN, 09/16/2008
i just got a letter from beasley allen that said sorry i didnt qualify for settlement after two heart attacks in 2003 while taking vioxx. when i called them they told me to be paient this is not the end of the line and roger smith111 would check into it still no money or word from attorneys has any one got any money?
From Lake Placid, FL, 09/07/2008
The latest news is: my heart Doctor told me as of yesterday, that she has to list all the paticents in the Computer for the Government. Also any perscriptions that you are taking. If you need a refill they only have to click on the prescription on the computer and send it to the drug store. it will be refilled for you. Now the catch is if the doseage has been increased or decreased that does not show the new prescription as being renewed but brings up the old record. now if someone else who does not know your dosage sees the computer record and issues the wrong dose then there is a big problem. My doctor is not happy with the OFF LABLE LAW THAT HAS BEEN INFORCED ON HER OFFICE AND PATICENTS. you need to write to the congress and tell them OFF LABLE IS A PROBLEM.
From NY, 09/07/2008
If I had been part of the PSC, I would have interviewed many litigants to understand their situations and negotiated with Merck something like this:
1: ill-gotten gains should be forfeited and provided to the litigants – or my best guess would be to add about $5B to the $4.85B…
2: subrogation should be paid entirely by Merck
3: opt-ins should only be required only 20%, even 32% just does not make it. In addition, it has to be a real 20%, though that is even high for paper pushing.
4: the GATE process would “get real”; independently certified as valid and not dominated by MURK’s quite biased view.
From Atlanta, 09/05/2008
My mother took Vioxx and had a stroke in Sept 99, then a heart attack in December 99 and past away. The lawyers are saying that even though I have copies of the prescriptions, I need receipts were the medical was actually purchased. Just another ploy to not pay!!
Some checks were mailed out Aug 28. Do anyone someone that received a check?
From Minden, NV, 09/04/2008
My husband took Vioxx for 4 years+ and suffered from 2 heart attacks and had stints and quad-bypass surgery. Now his attorney is saying he may not be eligible for this settlement because he got his Vioxx from the VA (he's a disabled vet) and their way of reporting prescriptions is confusing. Has anyone had a similar experience?
From Lake Placid, FL, 09/02/2008
I wonder how many got to court with a hearing in a STAR CHAMBER, if you had your attorney and Merck's attorney and the Judge present. even if you had a jury trial, Merck produced a 'STAR CHAMBER' iF your attorney did not know he should have knowN there is NO LAW, The Courts have never issued an ORDER for MERCK for a JUDGMENT. If the court ORDERS Merck To pay up and they did not. Merck could be prosecuted for contempt. funny that NO Court has ever ORDERED Merck to pay up. Why?? There is NO LAW, No Federal LAW and NO STATE LAW. No prosecution and NO Orders. MERCK IS UNTOUCHABLE.Each and every time anyone goes into the Court room against Merck it is a STAR CHAMBER' I thought we left the STAR CHAMBERS with NAZI GERMANS AFTER THE WWII.
From Kingston, NY, 08/27/2008
WELL, that one didn’t work right, try only this one more time…
Suggest for anyone vioxx interested, ANYONE, these links…. (f you are already in one of these, simoly ignore that one! – thankx!
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YOU TUBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZFTN7eGNE0
MarketPlace
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/08/04/vioxx_payouts/
WSJ HEALTH BLOG
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/01/18/vioxx-settlement-plan-keeps-rolling/#comment-271474
also other WSJ health blogs lead to the “story of vioxx and VPEG” and it still evolves..
Tort Deform - The Civil Justice Defense Blog
web: http://www.tortdeform.com
From Kingston, NY, 08/27/2008
Suggest for anyone vioxx interested, ANYONE, these links…. (f you are already in one of these, simoly ignore that one! – thankx!
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YOU TUBE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZFTN7eGNE0
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MarketPlace
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http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/08/04/vioxx_payouts/
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WSJ HEALTH BLOG
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/01/18/vioxx-settlement-plan-keeps-rolling/#comment-271474
also other WSJ health blogs lead to the “story of vioxx and VPEG” and it still evolves..
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Tort Deform - The Civil Justice Defense Blog
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web: http://www.tortdeform.com
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From Kingston, NY, 08/27/2008
OUTSIDE WORLD - Please help us! Some links to get started.... ... Suggest for anyone vioxx interested, ANYONE, these links�. (f you are already in one of these, simoly ignore that one! � thankx! .. YOU TUBE � http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZFTN7eGNE0 � .. .. MarketPlace � http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/08/04/vioxx_payouts/ � .. .. WSJ HEALTH BLOG http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/01/18/vioxx-settlement-plan-keeps-rolling/#comment-271474 also other WSJ health blogs lead to the �story of vioxx and VPEG� and it still evolves.. .. .. .. Tort Deform - The Civil Justice Defense Blog � web: http://www.tortdeform.com � .. ..
From Kingston, NY, 08/27/2008
Hello Marketplace
Thanks for keeping us visible!
Please coninue to do so, Marketplace is a very good place where VPEG can communicate to the outside world...we apprecite and please, we conintue to need your help.
I will be posting later again and creating 2 cross links between Marketplace and our own developed youtube...please stick with us and you will learn much from us and others as now WE ARE IN THE NEXT, BUT NOT LAST PHASE...
Thanks
Dennis Harrison
badbonehealing@hvc.rr.com
From Corona, CA, 08/27/2008
So, has anyone gotten a check yet? anyone heard from their lawyers if/when they will? anyone have any current info?
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/24/2008
All the claimants need to contact the Congressmen, Remind them. in 1962 Congress amended the Public Law FDA & FDCA Act and omitted any remedy for an individual that is killed or injured by a defective prescription drug. No Federal Law or State Laws. Congress preempted the Law and place a shield of protection for Prescription drug manufacturing and left the public at risk. NO LAW, Federal or State can prosecute for killing or torturing or damaging a person. Merck and others can be stopped and made accountable by filing a CIVIL RICO with Criminal elements. Racketeering, Influence Corrupt organization fits Merck like a glove. Mass Murder of 88,000 and damaged 169,000 with stokes and heart attacks. The RICO ACT, Title 18 & 28
From Corona, CA, 08/24/2008
WOW! 60,000 people will be paid? seems a bit high as there's only about 45,000 in the suit. I think someone got the wrong info? I haven't received a check regardless, and haven't heard anything from anyone(Merck/Lawyers), and I doubt I/we will. I'm quite sure they're obligated to pay, how much? we'll never know. Some folks may get more than others. I doubt anyone here has received a dime yet, if they have,m please let us all know, and how much?(truthfully, dont bullshit).
From Las Cruces,88012, NM, 08/21/2008
By Judge Joseph Guillory
My wife has had a heart attack and a stroke from vioxx in 2002 I as a Judge have always given the defedant complete due process in my court room. in the case of merck, due process has failed the judicial system that would stagger
anybody's mind what ever happen to our
country that due process no longer applies?
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/20/2008
Jan Lyons, Your case is like many of the others. Product Liability, I took vioxx samples given to me by my family doctor. The samples I have has no warnings on the package, Merck did not put warnings on the packages until 2001, after many of the people had taken vioxx and was killed or damaged. This was ordered by the FDA after warning letters went out to Merck. It was 14 months after they put Vioxx on the market did they put a warning about heart attacks and strokes. They played a game of now you see it and now you don't. If your case went to court or if you are on hold for the settlement. that does not mean anything. What matters is: There is NO LAW federal or state Law that can provide a remedy for a injury caused by a defective prescription drug. Merck is Untouchable when it comes to TORT action, Only a RICO Complaint can obtain a criminal prosectution and only then can anyone collect damages. RICO ACT fits Merck like a glove.
From AL, 08/19/2008
Man I just checked out the UTUBE on the FDA and wow it does not look good for any of us. They are on drugs there self I think and not the good ones. But back to vIOXX I sure hope Merck gets what is coming to them for the harm they have done to so many that trusted them
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/18/2008
Al Pennington, I guess you think that Merck is worried about the law suits. I don't think so. First all those law suits are filed in product liability class actions and there is NO LAW for any remedy for an individual injured or killed by a defective prescription drug, such as Vioxx.NO Federal Law and NO State Law that can prosecute for damages in Product Liability cases for prescription drugs. Congress Preempted the Law in 1962 wnen they amended the FDA and FDCA ACT Public Law, they omitted a remedy for prescription drugs. look it up. Judge Fallon explains in Gomez v. Merck case filed and posted on the Web. The only way Merck will be worried if the RICO Case is filed in the Courts. It is an ACT of CONGRESS. Racketeering influenced corrupt Organization, fits Merck & Co. Inc. like a glove. This is the LAW for high crimes and misdemeanors, Murder and Fraud and Racketeering, with bribe throun in for good measure. I know I filed a Civil RICO Complaint with criminal elements, Merck thinks they can do no wrong. but the forgot about the RICO Act.
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/15/2008
Jimmy Lacy, The reason your case was dismissed is there is NO LAW for Porduct Liability injury caused by a Prescription drug. Judges know this and can not rule on Law if there is NON. Congress preempted the Publi Law in 1962 omitting Product Liability remedy for any individual damaged or killed by a defective prescription drug. The courts and attorneys are putting all the cases against Merck in Product Liability as class actions. The reason behind this is so Merck and other prescription drug companies can get away with murder and experiment on the public while tortering and damaging. Merck has a protective shield from Congress and since Congressed preempted the FDA FDCA law in 1962 there is NO LAW Federal or State that can prosecute them.EXCEPT THE RICO ACT. READ IT. Civil RICO anyone can file a CIVIL RICO Case and use a Pauper application from the Court. Most people who used Vioxx is a pauper now because of the damages done to their (body) property.
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/14/2008
In reading this month Beasley Allen Report, states that the take or leave it Merck vioxx settlement checks were mailed out on August 6th. nearly 60,000 should be paid by the end of August. Has anyone got any payments Yet? Has any of the claimants attorneys received any of the payments ? No one seems to know if anyone has received anything from Merck. Why is that Merck is keeping such a tite lide on this? They are not telling because they are not paying anyone. Who is to know? After all Merck volunteered to pay the claims but is not court ordered or being forced to pay. Nor is there any Law to make them pay so claimants TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. OR MAYBE YOU ARE'NT GETTING IT?
From washington, NC, 08/13/2008
i have had three heartattacts since 2001 to2003 while taking vioxx which has really put my life to stand still.for seven years i could not work i was 185#man6"2 man in good heath with eight grandchildrens.thanks vioxx i can,t run play ball go fishing or fully enjoy them as a grandpa work&live to do vioxx no money can bring that back.
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/13/2008
To all those who took Vioxx and found themselves being distroyed and killed, needs to understand that Merck is not an American Corporation. It is a subsidary of a German parent company located in Damstant Germany, This company is over 300 years old and is in 90 countries and when you look at the history of the heirs you will understand why this German owned company is getting away with Murder.
Look up on your computer E-Merck, KGaA Merck Inc. and Emanual Merck. Arm yourselves with information and bring it to them you know they are a foreign corporation and that Congress preempted the Public Law by omitting product liability for any remedy for any individual that is killed or damaged by a defective prescruotuib drug. There is NO Federal Law and No State Law. Merck is untouchable unless you file a RICO Racketeering influence corrupt organization on the CEO who did this damage knowing and willingly and did fraud the public. God knows this is the truth. Arm yourself with information and go after them and the attorney who is not representing you but is working for Merck. Ben Franklin said the Pen is mighty than the sword. use your PC to search and find and Merck will have to accept responsibility.
From Catskill, NY, 08/13/2008
OK, PLEASE - Market Place....you have seen much, including the ultimate (Joan Petty)...please, if you wish to be the very first to split open this "case" - you need to now contact us, earnestly, and expand this "travesty of justice". Please call Joan or I.
Dennis Harrison
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/13/2008
Why is Congress letting Merck & Co. Inc. a foreign Corporation kill 88,000 people and damage 169,000 with heart attacks and strokes and never proseute the people who did it for profits?
Answer: Because: 1962 Congress Preempted the Public Law FDA & FDCA Act and omitted any remedy for Product Liability for a individual that is killed or damaged by a defective drug. Merck is untouchable and can do no wrong. NO LAW, Federal or State.for a remedy for a product Liability such as defected prescription drugs.
From Lake Placid, FL, 08/13/2008
I am a Plaintiff, filed the only Civil RICO Complain as pro se litigant on Merck & Co. Inc. and 3 CEO's Gilmartin, Clark and Scolnick. I had 3 heart attacks and 2 strokes and died on the operating table in Tampa General August 9,1999 after taking vioxx for 2 months. I took Vioxx for 5 years not knowing it was killing and damaging my body. When I stop taking it I started to recover part of my life. My injury is now life threatening and perminent. By filing my own case I found out through study and research that there is No product liability for any individual that is injured or killed by a defective prescription drug. Let me say this Again. in 1962 Congress omitted product liability from the Public Law when they amended the FDA FDCA act any remedy for an individual that is killed or damaged by a defective prescription drug. There is NO Federal law or State Law that can prosecute for damages or collect for injury or damages... check it out by searching the Case Gomez v, Merck Judge Fallon gave an Order and Reason on page 19 word for word you can read it. it is a public document and is on the Web if you look for it. you will see there is NO prodcut Liability remedy for injury or killing. Now there is a law that is a catch basin called RICO and Merck fits it like a glove. I filed in the District Court and the MDLJP and Merck transfered my case to Louisiana Judge Fallon, who dismissed my RICO and I appealsd it in the 5th circuit where it is now and I expect to get kicked out of there too and then I am going to Washington DC Supreme Court with a Unconstitutional Challenge. I filed a judgment against Merck & Co. Inc et al for 16.5 million dollars and that is a drop in the bucket. The clock is still ticking and the interest in going too. remeber there is NO Law, No Federal No State that can prosecute them for damages or murder... Check it out look at Gomez v. Merck Judge Fallon statement Order and Reason.
From Paris, TN, 08/10/2008
I was walking on a tread mill and my knee begin to hurt. Working as a psychologist in a medical clinic, an RN friend saw me taking Elive for my knee and told me it was going to hurt my stomach and I should use one of the new COX II inibitiors. After 13 or so months I had an MI. I lost a salary of 100,000 per year. I now have a brain tumor that I believe research is showing could be linked to ingestion of COX 2 inhibitors. Oncologis give me 2 years to 3. I have a 10 year old son. I could go into detail about how this changed our lives, but there are issues more important than my own woe's. I will die soon and my children and grand etc. will go on. The important thing to me is to stand back and look at what this means. A corporation has murdered an estimate of 200,000 people. No criminal charges have been made when it evidently has been shown by e-mail communication that Merck knew the dangers. Our government would not allow any other country, or and individual, or group of individuals to kill people on this scale. Corporations are obviously most influential at this time. This is a very dangerous time in this society. Political candidates cannot get elected without favorable indorsement and funds from corporations. The Vioxx settlement is just a small pimple that is going to develope into a very painful boil. Dan Emerson
From NY, 08/09/2008
The payouts merck will be making will never be enough! What price do you put on a human life? The loss of hopes and dreams. Never seeing him again, hearing his laughter, staring into his beautiful eyes. Never to have that third child. Raising my two sons alone. Every celebration, birthday, holiday, and rite of passing brings sadness and bitterness. Going through life without my husband has been numbing. Unless we die together, many of us will be widowed. But, I did not expect to be a 37 year old widow. Merck has forever changed my life.
From brooklyn, NY, 08/09/2008
Merck has made a very bad mistake here .........vioxx helping us die a little each day ........that we do live ...payouts are making us stresd out and nothing more ............i took that pill for pain so i could work and go on with my life and get things done look what youve done to me now Merck.... only one thats going to be happy is my lawyer that if there ever is any money .......................... Merck is sitting and laufing at us....
From Catskill, NY, 08/09/2008
This is worthy of the THE RICO ACT - Racketeering Influence Corrupt Organization/corp.
Approx 88,000 have been murdered.
169,000 with MI and Stroke
Pulomary Embolish
Ischemic Stroke
Undisclosed number of fractued bones and spines not healing.
I may Post again with a tad more info/detail.
From ME, 08/09/2008
Merck almost killed my husband !!!.Our proof is so clear and in his medical records. In Jan. 2003 because I'm a nurse, I made my husband go in and have his yearly check up and because he was 58, I asked the doctor to do an EKG, stress test and another test with dye injected so they could look at all his arteries, this test alone took 2 1/2 hours. He past with flying colors. Then due to arthritis he was started on vioxx. Eight months later he had a massive heart attach and needed a 6 by-pass, they could only do 5, the last one was to deep into his heart to get to. He had a stroke during the surgery, minor thank God. Five months after his by-pass, he had to be put on a medication for high blood pressure. Again, I knew with all these new arteries that this should not be happening. Only to find out a year later that vioxx was pulled from the market. We heard this on TV. So my husband after getting all these new arteries was put right back on vioxx for another year. After what vioxx did to his fine arteries in only 8 months, I hate to even think what it did to all the new ones for a year. And the best part, he's my caregiver. I have lupus, MS and a brain tumor, that we just found out is cancer. I've been watching him slowly die over the past 6 to 8 months and now he gets to watch me.
After 35 years of marriage this is our GOLDEN years together.
This whole deal with Merck was just crazy. We get the call about the settlement and I ask "what's the amount"??, well we don't know. There going to use a point system, OK whats our points, DON"T KNOW, but it's the best deal and a good one and we need 85% to agree or the deal is off and it could be 15 to 20 years before we see any money out of this and if we don't sign/accept then we'll be dropped and there will be nothing more that we can do because this deal is already done !!!!
The way we see it right now, there will be very little to no money for us and they knew that drug was killing and hurting people, but they sure made their money off that pill.
There must be somebody out there that can help ALL of us !!!!!!
Thank You,
Nurse B
08/08/2008
This settlement is in no way giving justice to all the injured or dead from Vioxx. Everything about it is so unfair. The plaintiffs were told to take it or leave it. If you didn't accept it, your attorney would then drop you. You do not even hear from them either now that you have signed on.
From Hillside, NJ, 08/08/2008
I was an active healthy and vibrant person who had Arthritis. Soon after it came on the market, my doctor put me on Vioxx the new Wonder Drug easier on the stomach than the other NSAIDs they said. I had my heart attack in November of 2000. I've worked 2 half days since. These days, I subsist on disability and live in the basement of a kindly relative all because of Merck and Vioxx. They knew it was a killer. They knew it maimed people. There is no amount of money that can give me back my health or the wonderful life I had. I deserve reasonable compensation so I can get out of the basement and live a decent life. I have been injured through no fault of my own. Now Merck plans to throw a pittance toward the victims while paying off the lawyers handsomely for coercing victims into signing their rights away. We are being injured again. All Americans had better look out because if you're next to get injured by one of these big companies and you let them get away with doing this to us, you're next...
From Pueblo, CO, 08/08/2008
In 2001 I was a slender active 47 year old correctional officer. When I had a heart attck at work none of the doctors could figure out what happened. The damage to my heart kept me from taking the updated treatments for my rheumatoid arthritis so in 2003 I becamed disabled . The day I heard about the settlement I was very happy . I did not want to go to court and it seemed like the perfect solution. Wow,was I wrong.We are all waiting like starving dogs for Merck to throw us a bone . We don't know how much we are getting or when it will come . We do know that the lawyers and insurance companys will get most of it . Do I sound greedy? My HEART is damaged. Nothing can correct it . My life has been changed forever. No amount of money can change that but it would sure make my life a little bit easier. By the time the money (if any) comes, some of us will die from our damaged hearts . Where is the justice in that?
Coyote
From PARMA, OH, 08/07/2008
15 SECONDS OF AIR TIME, SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU BELIEVE THE SAME AS MERCK PEOPLES LIVES AND THEIR HEALTH IS WORTH ONLY 15 SECONDS OF YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ALL VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT WERE HURT BY THIS DRUG, THANKS FOR FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM BUT WHO CARES. THIS IS AMERICA.
From spring, TX, 08/07/2008
Please explain what happens to the victims who suffered 2 or more heart attacks while taking the drug. Although they may be living, just think about the impact that this drug has on their well being. Just like any other matter that involves big businesses, the little people all ways seem to bite the dust.
From IL, 08/06/2008
Merk and attorneys forced, hurried, mislead and threatened to drop our cases. Thats why 97% signed on, hell of a deal.
From Haleyville, 08/06/2008
I am not real good with posting and all. I will say Merck should be ashamed of there selfs for what they have done to so many. I was a welder for 24 years up to my heart attack and hane not worked sensce. Use to build Navy Ships now can hardly get around. it has been 7 years sensce the attack and it just seems to get worse ( my health that is ) like I said I am not good with words ...but also am not a happy camper. I read all the post in VPEG and post a few times myyself Bones and Al have really informed me so much on this and I would like to thank them if I may
Thank You All VPEG my new family
From zephyrhills, FL, 08/06/2008
i was 27 in excellent shape. i injured my back was put on vioxx. 18 month slater i had an stroke, now im blind inmy left eye and left arm paralysed.. and now im 35 and still with the issues. there is no amount of money that can fix my issues. i will prob end up getting 50k or something like that. vioxx ruined my life!!
From Albertville, AL, 08/05/2008
I sued Merck Jan, 11 2002. The Judge dismissed my case in June 2008 after I had spend thousands of dollors on legal fees.All I and we can do now is ask the world to boycott all drugs made by Merck.Aways remember Merck where money comes first.
From leitchfield, KY, 08/05/2008
Who knows how much their settlement will be . They say they are sending out checks, yet our laywes can,t tell us nothing.
From Ogden, UT, 08/05/2008
My problem is not with the actual drug Vioxx, it is with the cover up, the small print warnings they were finally forced to add in 2002. I read the warnings in a sample package. I found a sample package after my husbands death and ripped it open to find the imfamous, wonderful detailed warning. I don't wear glasses, 20/20 vision and I still had to use a magnifying glass to read 'may increase cardiac events'. No where did it say in bold print may increase cardiac events by five times. My husband never would have taken the drug if he had been aware of the severity of the side effects. His doctor would never have prescribed it. My husband survived stage IV cancer at the age of 30, lived a full active life for the next 21 years and then to have it end because of a little pill. Vioxx was the first prescription drug he took, except for antibiotics for broncitis in 21 years. I was with him when it was explained that it was a wonder drug with no side effects. We were dumb. Tell all the facts, don't hide the severity, then let individuals and medical profressionals decide if the 'odds' are worth the benefit. I am glad to see Merck's shares go down, perhaps that is the only way they will feel any 'remorse' is through losing value on the stock market. At times, when the stock was soaring I would say I would have had more financial compensation if I had bought stock instead of filing a suit for my husbands death. Merck played this situation brillantly. The winners in this, Merck's legal team. They made a bundle. No amount of money can compensate for the loss of my husband, our goals, our dreams. I just think the settlement should have equaled the profit they made from Vioxx. Their profit was almost 15 Billion, that should have been the settlement. Merck should not have been allowed to keep any profit or to deduct their legal or research costs from the profit. They are not suffering a loss. They will still walk away with a profit from Vioxx. The whistle blower, a Merck sales rep., that turned in Merck for giving hospitals a discount and not giving state medicaid the same discount walks away with 68 million dollars and no attorney portion taken from that amount. So, if you are lyed to and you are hurt or even die, you get a pitance, but if you are a snitch you get the grand prize. That does not say much for our value system. Merck has turned this fiasco into a 'rape' trial where the defense team of the rapist turns the victim into the villian and 'deserved or warranted the crime/attack. Merck ended up being the innocent victim and the major attorneys bought into it. They did not protect their clients, they walked away with billions to boost their coffers.
From cincinnati, OH, 08/05/2008
No, it's not news that attorneys get thier percentage...but when that amount is so small and subrogation takes the rest, the victims end up owing! No amount of money can replace my deceased husband. But this travesty of a settlement does not even come remotely close to even beginning to help me and my (our) son survive without our loved one. The settlement does not offer any amount for my husbands death as it occured after the date of recall of Vioxx. His death however is directly related to the two prior heart attacks caused from the Vioxx that he was on at that time. I have been taken advantage of and bullied enough by all of this mess. I can not plan anything, I have no idea what (if anything) I will get from this settlement. The calculators that Merck uses changes dailey. How can anyone say it is legal or even acceptable to sign a settlement that says you may or may not get anything and we're not telling you how much it is until we decide? The word settlement by it's very definition implies that a final agreed upon amount has been established. This is not a settlement - it is a banana being held out in front of chimp. And we are the ignorant plaintiffs who chase it because we have no other recourse.
From TX, 08/04/2008
the settlement was based on extorting the victims into signing by giving them no choice. sign or lose your lawyer.
may as well have held a gun to your head.
merck can rott in hell
From Lawrenceburg, IN, 08/04/2008
The current Vioxx Settlement is a travesty to justice, and has corrupted the legal system upon which we citizen victims depend. It has destroyed the trust between attorneys and their clients and, besides guaranteeing a huge payday for the lawyers involved and limiting Merck's exposure, has done very little to compensate a huge number of victim/plaintiffs who have suffered devastating permanent injury and/or death.
If you are a Vioxx Plaintiff, whether you have opted in or out of the Settlement, you owe it to yourself to visit the web site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MerckSettlement... This is where many Vioxx Plaintiffs have been gathering online since the settlement announcement to discuss the problems/merits of the Settlement. Objections ABOUND!
Many plaintiffs have been given erroneous or misleading/confusing info from their attorneys, and understand precious little regarding the specifics of how the settlement actually works. I fear a great number of plaintiffs have seemingly been led down the garden path as sheep to slaughter, primarily for the financial gain of their attorneys.
I feel certain that most plaintiffs who have opted into the settlement, once they realize or are notified of what their actual settlement amount will be and what they will net after attorney fees and insurance subrogation liens/responsibilities, will be furiously disappointed.
Once again the website is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MerckSettlement...
(Or MERCKSETTLEMENT@YAHOOGROUPS.COM)
Henry Smith
From Decatur, MS, 08/04/2008
A 15 second sound bite for one of the survivors of this dreaded drug. That's it ? Too bad you couldn't talk to any of the dead. The FDA now reportedly estimates that the total number of US Vioxx deaths may be between 89,000 and 140,000. Worldwide Vioxx deaths are estimated to be between 150,000 and 200,000. From http://www.adrugrecall.com/vioxx/death.html
15 seconds. Let's see, how much air time has Merck received ?
I have serious doubts about our judicial system. The FDA as well as our Congress, who I feel should be listening to us.
From Norwood, MO, 08/04/2008
The real news here (which needs to be reported in much more detail) is that the settlement may well be illegal, in that it involved an enforced boycott by lawyers of any plaintiff who refused the "offer" (violating both ABA model rules of conduct and state and federal laws); plaintiffs were thus told they must sign a release saying they were doing so voluntarily and without coercion, at the same time being told if they didn't do so they would lose legal representation. Additionally, the amounts most plaintiffs who suffered serious heart attacks and strokes will receive (after deductionlegal expenses and insurance subrogation) may be well under $50,000, if that. The 'settlement' is designed to subtract points for any other "risk factor" even though people with risk factors should have been the last to receive a drug that increased their risks of having a heart attack. The settlement is therefore both an attack on our legal system and a travesty of justice for victims.
From Fayetteville, AR, 08/04/2008
I feel that many things are wrong here! Firstly, MERCK not accepting any responsibilities for this travesty. Next, the cap on the settlement amount when they were profiting at many peoples injury. Finally, the round about way of tort reform and the division of lawyer- client relationship.
I feel the VIOXX victim is really getting the short end of the stick, and MERCK, Merck's lawyers, the PSC (8%), the plaintiffs attorneys (35%-40%) and the Insurances companies (who didn't have to file suit, thus don't have to pay attorney fees) are the ones who are really benefiting from this so called settlement. All plaintiffs who signed did so under the vail of "either sign up for the settlement or we as your attorney will find a way to drop you from our representation."
From New Orleans, LA, 08/04/2008
To me this isn't about the money. No money could be enough to fix my heart that was damaged by taking a drug that did more harm than it helped. Add to the thousands of those that lost loved ones, our lives have been changed forever. The people affected directly are not the ones will benefit financially from this settlement.
The only thing it does for me is close the book but not the continued damage.
08/04/2008
How much money is a fair settlement? I took Vioxx for years before it was withdrawn from the market and even the last 2 years my doctor doubled my doseage as he did not know of the health issues it would cause. After my heart attack he continued to give me the drug till withdrawn from market by Vioxx! I never had any heart issues before taking the drug, and after a peroid of time getting it out of my system, no other problems. It is too late now as it has taken away my life style, as all I can do is sit around and be miserable. It has afected all parts of my body, mind and body functions. Yes the lawyers will make more than the patients on this deal. I will be taking a huge cut because I smoke! I have smoked for 60 years, and never had any complications and smoke today as it is a bad habit that I have not been able to defeat! Vioxx caused blood clots and that is what almost killed me on the operating table. Doctors were mislead, and also the patients, or was it lied too! I think they are getting off cheap for all the problems they have caused for being deciteful. Yes I am mad when I see the huge profits they made by fixing the tests and studys they did and knowing the damage they were doing. I am tired of them draging thier feet, finish up unfinished business so we can put this behind us!
08/04/2008
A claimant isn't satisfied with his award! Lawyers took a huge percentage! This is news?
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