Marketplace

Search

Friday, March 13, 2009

Listen to the show

Does loss of Triple-A rating matter?

General Electric logo

Now that General Electric and Berkshire Hathaway have lost their Triple-A credit ratings, only five U.S. companies are left with that status. With fewer companies standing at the top, what does losing an A really mean? Jeremy Hobson reports.

General Electric logo on a stove (David McNew/Getty Images)

More on America's Financial Crisis

TEXT OF STORY

Kai Ryssdal: Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway holding company has gotten a financial poke in the eye. It lost its AAA credit rating today. The downgrade from Fitch -- that's one of the three big credit rating agencies -- leaves Berkshire at what's called AA plus. That means it has a slightly higher risk of defaulting on its debt than before. The decision by Fitch came just hours after S&P did the same thing to General Electric. It is now at AA plus as well. And that means each company will have to pay more to borrow money -- not a good thing in a time of tight credit. Here's Marketplace's Jeremy Hobson with more on rating deflation.


Jeremy Hobson: So, what does it mean to be AAA? It's kind of like the way the credit card companies look at you if you've got a great FICO score.

Nicki Riccio: You are going to pay back your debt without any doubt.

Nick Riccio is managing director in corporate ratings at Standard and Poors. He says the number of companies that can pay back their debt without any doubt has been falling for years.

Riccio: There are five left. Alright? At one time that number was about 32, but over the last couple of decades, we've been kind of sliding a little bit.

More than a little bit. Riccio says the vast majority of American companies are rated junk these days. Gerald Epstein is an economist at the University of Massachusetts. He says with these downgrades, the rating agencies are just stating the obvious.

Gerald Epstein: Anybody who looks carefully at what's going on in the financial markets knows that Berkshire Hathaway is -- it has some investments that are in trouble. You don't really need the credit rating agencies to tell you that.

Epstein says agencies like S&P lost his confidence when they failed to rate mortgage backed bonds correctly. He says their ratings on companies are more reliable. But he says they're not quick enough on the draw.

Epstein: They really in a sense contribute to the business cycle by the way that they do these ratings. I would prefer to see them do ratings in a much more long-term kind of way, rather than go up with the cycle and being over-pessimistic on the way down.

Epstein says until the rating agencies get more transparent about the way they do business, that extra A in the rating doesn't mean much.

In New York, I'm Jeremy Hobson for Marketplace.

Comments

  • Comment | Refresh

  • Post a Comment: Please be civil, brief and relevant.

    Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments. All comments are moderated. Marketplace reserves the right to edit any comments on this site and to read them on the air if they are extra-interesting. Please read the Comment Guidelines before posting.

    * indicates required field

    *
    *
    *
     




     

    You must be 13 or over to submit information to American Public Media. The information entered into this form will not be used to send unsolicited email and will not be sold to a third party. For more information see Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy.

Music From This Show

  • For Emma Bon Iver Buy
  • Darklands The Jesus and Mary Chain Buy
  • Dance, Dance, Dance Lykke Li Buy
  • Tightrope Yeasayer Buy
  • The Gotan Project Vuelvo Al Sur Buy
Podcast »

Listen to 'After the Bell'

In his weekly podcast, Scott Jagow makes sense of the week in business and the economy. Subscribe now.

The Whiteboard »

Derivatives

Whiteboard DerivativesWatch the video

Credit default swaps? They're complicated -- and scary! The receipt you get when you pre-order your Thanksgiving turkey? Not so much. But they have a lot in common: They're both derivatives. Senior Editor Paddy Hirsch explains. Watch the video.

More Whiteboard Videos »

Getting Personal »
Chris Farrell

Q: Refinance, or not

I own a home which I'm in the process of refinancing under the Keeping Homes Affordable program. As part of the refinancing... my bank wants to lower my line of credit from $28,000 to $10,000 and they want to freeze it for the time being... I'm very uncomfortable with this as it has been serving as my "safety net"... What should I do? Laura, Minneapolis, MN Read Chris Farrell's answer »

Special Reports and Series

Built on Belief »

One year after the fall of Lehman Brothers, Americans' have lost faith in the financial system and learned some hard lessons. Get more.

The Big Shift »

The recession has changed our financial lives. A look at wealth and prosperity in the middle class and how we live now. Get more.

The Borrowers »

How living beyond our means helped bring down the economy. The role of personal debt in the financial crisis, and where we go from here. Get more.

The Next American Dream »

How four pillars of the American Dream are changing. What's in your future?

Taking Stock »

Conversations with individuals who can give us the long view of our economic situation. Get their views.

More Stories & Special Reports »

The Specials

GAME: Budget Hero

Budget Hero

Think you could balance the federal budget? Play the game.

Conversations from the Corner OfficeTM

Conversations From the Corner Office

Marketplace goes one-on-one with CEOs, company founders, head honchos...

Sit in

Working

Working

Intimate profiles of workers in the global economy.

Meet them

Marketplace on iTunes U

iTunes U

Marketplace is on Apple's online education platform, iTunesU. Get free downloads in subjects like History, Science, Business and more. Study up

American Public Media © |   Terms and Conditions   |   Privacy Policy